[AERNet] FW: Braille music

Fri Mar 9 09:34:58 EST 2007

Hi Joyce,

I always post to aernet at lists.aerbvi.org. I've noticed that if I just
hit Reply it only goes to the sender, but if I hit Reply All it goes to
the sender and the list. Give that a try and see if it works.

May I be so bold as to make one other suggestion. I noticed that your
replies display the old messages first and then your comments. In
general, it's much easier for people to read your reply first and then
scroll down to see the original message if they need to refer back to
it. Ask your techie sweetie if he can change that for you and I think
you'll make the folks you e-mail with much happier. 

Take care and thanks again for replying.
Ike

P.S. I'll try to post your message to AER

-----Original Message-----
From: Joyce [mailto:joyce at maddox-tudor.net] 
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 5:08 PM
To: Ike Presley
Subject: Re: [AERNet] FW: Braille music

Ike Presley wrote:

>Thanks Joyce, that's a great suggestion. I was hoping that you would
>post it to the list so that  those who need this type of guidance could
>see it..
>Ike 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joyce [mailto:joyce at maddox-tudor.net] 
>Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 11:20 PM
>To: Ike Presley
>Subject: Re: [AERNet] FW: Braille music
>
>Ike Presley wrote:
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>>Ok, I've set on the sidelines long enough. Here's my question. If
other
>>students are learning about music, why can't our students?
>>
>>I can remember learning some real basic stuff about music in early
>>grades and it was part of the stimulus that got me interested in
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>playing
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>>in the band. As a kid growing up with "Coke bottle glasses," who
>>basically stunk at sports, I can't tell you how much being in band
>>helped with my self concept and development of self confidence. Band
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>was
>  
>
>>the one place where I could function socially on a relatively level
>>playing field. I know it's not for everyone, but it sure is good for
>>some of us.
>>
>>Anyway, I think it's worthwhile to give our students as much of the
>>regular curriculum as we possibly can, even if it means begging
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>teachers
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>>to let us know in advance what they are gong to be covering in various
>>subject areas.
>>
>>This brings up another thought. Has anyone developed a good set of
>>questions to ask teachers at the beginning of the year, and then
>>periodically throughout the year, that will help the TVI know what's
>>coming which might give us a fighting chance to prepare the student
and
>>materials for those activates? (Boy, I hope my English teacher doesn't
>>see that question!)  Having taught for many years I know a lot of the
>>questions, but if someone had a good list it might be a great thing to
>>share with new teachers and students in the personnel prep programs.
>>
>>I'm sure you've heard enough from me for one day, so I'm outta here.
>>Ike
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: aernet-bounces at lists.aerbvi.org
>>[mailto:aernet-bounces at lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Cobb, Susan S.
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:44 AM
>>To: Sierra; AER
>>Cc: Karen Gearreald
>>Subject: Re: [AERNet] FW: Braille music
>>Importance: High
>>
>>Contact Dr. Karen Gearald in Norfolk, Virginia.
>>She's a teacher, lawyer, pianist, and vocalist, ....blind since birth.
>>Karen's now also working with the National Library Service, Division
of
>>Braille Music.
>>
>>I feel with some certainty, "Dr. Karen" can share some real insight as
>>to why the children we serve should be instructed in reading braille
>>music :)
>>
>>Susan Cobb, Education Coordinator
>>Dept. for the Blind and Vision Impaired
>>Richmond, VA.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: aernet-bounces at lists.aerbvi.org
>>[mailto:aernet-bounces at lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Sierra
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 7:47 PM
>>To: AER
>>Subject: [AERNet] FW: Braille music
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Sierra [mailto:sierra at fiber.net]
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 5:47 PM
>>To: morrowmediakc at yahoo.com
>>Subject: RE: [AERNet] Braille music
>>
>>
>>I think more people would learn braille music if the "c" on the piano
>>were
>>written as as "c" in braille music.  Most of the way braille music is
>>written is very logical, but it's difficult to teach a child that  "c
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>is
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>>d
>>and d is e, etc."  Any chance of getting that changed?  I was told
that
>>the
>>reason for braille music starting with c as d is that originally,
music
>>was
>>written and taught as "do, re, mi, fa, sol, la, ti, do" and "do"
starts
>>with
>>d??????
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: aernet-bounces at lists.aerbvi.org
>>[mailto:aernet-bounces at lists.aerbvi.org]On Behalf Of Kimberly Morrow,
>>PhD.
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 2:34 PM
>>To: dwalters at cesa6.k12.wi.us
>>Cc: aernet at lists.aerbvi.org
>>Subject: Re: [AERNet] Braille music
>>
>>
>>I suppose the question you need to ask is: Why is it
>>important for the other children to learn how to read
>>music? Personally, I believe there is definite value
>>in at least learning the basic notes. And--the student
>>should learn that when his class is studying the
>>staff, there *is* no staff in braille music. I dont
>>actually use braille music very much these days, but I
>>do occasionally enjoy picking up a book of braille
>>music and learning a Scott Joplin or Chopin piece on
>>the piano. Braille music opens up a world for the
>>blind student in terms of then being able both to
>>understand basic music theory and being able to play a
>>piece note for note if the occasion warrants it. I
>>would urge you not to sentence your student to a high
>>school experience where all the other students had the
>>oppoertunity to begin music training years ago and he
>>never got the chance.
>>
>>Kimberly
>>
>>
>>Kimberly Morrow, Ph.D.
>><morrowmediakc at yahoo.com>
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>Ike-
>Here's what works for me in the district for which I work.  I ask the 
>teachers for copies of the books each of my students will be using
along
>
>with a copy of their annual "curriculum on the wall (COW)"  Teachers
are
>
>more apt to assist in this way because all they have to do is give over

>some hardback books and a sheet of paper that lists what skills/topics 
>will be covered in what month of the year.  I typically get this stuff 
>at the end of the previous year so that I can plan my braille 
>instruction for the following year so that it parallels their 
>curriculum.  Everyone is happy!-)  I even have a few teachers who give 
>me all "loose-leaf" pages that are used as extracurricular activity in 
>the classroom.....transcribe it if necessary.
>
>Hope this helps....
>Joyce
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For some reason my computer doesn't like posting the list serve....my 
husband is a computer tech guy and he's looked at my computer to see 
what is up and he can't determine why I'm unable to post to the list.  
So, I reply to the individual who sent out the original post on the list

serv.

You are welcome to forward my comment to the listserv if you feel that 
others would find my comment beneficial.

Thanks

PS
Maybe I'm not posting something correctly.  Is there a seperate email 
addy to post to the list serv?  If so, would you share with me?