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Kraft, Linda D.
Thu, Jan 26, 2017 1:50 PM

Would anyone care to weigh in on the dual media debate and how to help a child be successful in both print and Braille?  This child's prognosis is somewhat questionable at this time.  Doctors have suggested that it is likely she will lose vision in the future, but currently she seems to be stable (she is in first grade).

Thanks (in advance)  for your input!

Linda Kraft, Teacher of the Visually Impaired

Would anyone care to weigh in on the dual media debate and how to help a child be successful in both print and Braille? This child's prognosis is somewhat questionable at this time. Doctors have suggested that it is likely she will lose vision in the future, but currently she seems to be stable (she is in first grade). Thanks (in advance) for your input! Linda Kraft, Teacher of the Visually Impaired
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oriana Martinez
Thu, Jan 26, 2017 2:45 PM

I am very interested in this as well.  I have a student with Lebers who is in first grade as well.  Progress is very slow in both print and Braille, but she is making more progress in print.  I am very curious to hear other experiences and how to best support these students.

Thanks!

Oriana

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On Jan 26, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Kraft, Linda D. <lkraft@nd.govmailto:lkraft@nd.gov> wrote:

Would anyone care to weigh in on the dual media debate and how to help a child be successful in both print and Braille?  This child's prognosis is somewhat questionable at this time.  Doctors have suggested that it is likely she will lose vision in the future, but currently she seems to be stable (she is in first grade).

Thanks (in advance)  for your input!

Linda Kraft, Teacher of the Visually Impaired

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I am very interested in this as well. I have a student with Lebers who is in first grade as well. Progress is very slow in both print and Braille, but she is making more progress in print. I am very curious to hear other experiences and how to best support these students. Thanks! Oriana Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Kraft, Linda D. <lkraft@nd.gov<mailto:lkraft@nd.gov>> wrote: Would anyone care to weigh in on the dual media debate and how to help a child be successful in both print and Braille? This child's prognosis is somewhat questionable at this time. Doctors have suggested that it is likely she will lose vision in the future, but currently she seems to be stable (she is in first grade). Thanks (in advance) for your input! Linda Kraft, Teacher of the Visually Impaired You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org<mailto:aernet@lists.aerbvi.org>. Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org<mailto:aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org> To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. _______________________________________________ AERNet mailing list AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org<mailto:AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org> http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org
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oriana Martinez
Thu, Jan 26, 2017 2:45 PM

I am very interested in this as well.  I have a student with Lebers who is in first grade as well.  Progress is very slow in both print and Braille, but she is making more progress in print.  I am very curious to hear other experiences and how to best support these students.

Thanks!

Oriana

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 26, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Kraft, Linda D. <lkraft@nd.govmailto:lkraft@nd.gov> wrote:

Would anyone care to weigh in on the dual media debate and how to help a child be successful in both print and Braille?  This child’s prognosis is somewhat questionable at this time.  Doctors have suggested that it is likely she will lose vision in the future, but currently she seems to be stable (she is in first grade).

Thanks (in advance)  for your input!

Linda Kraft, Teacher of the Visually Impaired

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I am very interested in this as well. I have a student with Lebers who is in first grade as well. Progress is very slow in both print and Braille, but she is making more progress in print. I am very curious to hear other experiences and how to best support these students. Thanks! Oriana Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Kraft, Linda D. <lkraft@nd.gov<mailto:lkraft@nd.gov>> wrote: Would anyone care to weigh in on the dual media debate and how to help a child be successful in both print and Braille? This child’s prognosis is somewhat questionable at this time. Doctors have suggested that it is likely she will lose vision in the future, but currently she seems to be stable (she is in first grade). Thanks (in advance) for your input! Linda Kraft, Teacher of the Visually Impaired You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org<mailto:aernet@lists.aerbvi.org>. Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org<mailto:aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org> To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. _______________________________________________ AERNet mailing list AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org<mailto:AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org> http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org
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Brink-Chaney, Marcie A
Thu, Jan 26, 2017 4:40 PM

Does Seedlings have books in large print and Braille? I know they have print/Braille books that have regular print. This may be a way to work with her.  She would probably enjoy the pictures in the books and the reading level can be set by what books you get for her. Not being a teacher, I don't know if this is helpful or not.
Marcie Brink-Chaney CVRT
Visually Impaired Services
Detroit Receiving Hospital University Health Center
Detroit Medical Center
Phone: (313)745-4131
Email: mbrink-c@dmc.orgmailto:mbrink-c@dmc.org


From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Kraft, Linda D.
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Subject: [AERNet] Dual Readers

Would anyone care to weigh in on the dual media debate and how to help a child be successful in both print and Braille?  This child's prognosis is somewhat questionable at this time.  Doctors have suggested that it is likely she will lose vision in the future, but currently she seems to be stable (she is in first grade).

Thanks (in advance)  for your input!

Linda Kraft, Teacher of the Visually Impaired

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Does Seedlings have books in large print and Braille? I know they have print/Braille books that have regular print. This may be a way to work with her. She would probably enjoy the pictures in the books and the reading level can be set by what books you get for her. Not being a teacher, I don't know if this is helpful or not. Marcie Brink-Chaney CVRT Visually Impaired Services Detroit Receiving Hospital University Health Center Detroit Medical Center Phone: (313)745-4131 Email: mbrink-c@dmc.org<mailto:mbrink-c@dmc.org> ________________________________ From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Kraft, Linda D. Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 8:50 AM To: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org Subject: [AERNet] Dual Readers Would anyone care to weigh in on the dual media debate and how to help a child be successful in both print and Braille? This child's prognosis is somewhat questionable at this time. Doctors have suggested that it is likely she will lose vision in the future, but currently she seems to be stable (she is in first grade). Thanks (in advance) for your input! Linda Kraft, Teacher of the Visually Impaired This message (including any attachments) is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete the message (including any attachments) and notify the originator that you received the message in error. Any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority, states them to be the views of Tenet Healthcare Corporation.
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Diane Brauner
Thu, Jan 26, 2017 6:47 PM

Food for thought:

Dual Reader or Trio Reader?  Please do not forget that students should also be introduced to auditory reading as well as print and braille.  While I adamantly agree that students need to LEARN to read using print and/or braille, these same students will benefit from auditory reading skills in higher grades.  It is always best to introduce the student to various methods at an early age.  Providing specific opportunities to use auditory skills combined with print or braille is often helpful.  Many students, including those with other reading issues such as student who are dyslexic, is often beneficial. For younger students, "reading" (print and auditory) an interactive story on the iPad can be very motivating!

Diane


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Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 9:45 AM
To: Kraft, Linda D.
Cc: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org
Subject: Re: [AERNet] Dual Readers

I am very interested in this as well.  I have a student with Lebers who is in first grade as well.  Progress is very slow in both print and Braille, but she is making more progress in print.  I am very curious to hear other experiences and how to best support these students.

Thanks!

Oriana

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 26, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Kraft, Linda D. <lkraft@nd.govmailto:lkraft@nd.gov> wrote:

Would anyone care to weigh in on the dual media debate and how to help a child be successful in both print and Braille?  This child's prognosis is somewhat questionable at this time.  Doctors have suggested that it is likely she will lose vision in the future, but currently she seems to be stable (she is in first grade).

Thanks (in advance)  for your input!

Linda Kraft, Teacher of the Visually Impaired

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Food for thought: Dual Reader or Trio Reader? Please do not forget that students should also be introduced to auditory reading as well as print and braille. While I adamantly agree that students need to LEARN to read using print and/or braille, these same students will benefit from auditory reading skills in higher grades. It is always best to introduce the student to various methods at an early age. Providing specific opportunities to use auditory skills combined with print or braille is often helpful. Many students, including those with other reading issues such as student who are dyslexic, is often beneficial. For younger students, "reading" (print and auditory) an interactive story on the iPad can be very motivating! Diane ________________________________ From: AERNet <aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org> on behalf of oriana Martinez <golden_ori@hotmail.com> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 9:45 AM To: Kraft, Linda D. Cc: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org Subject: Re: [AERNet] Dual Readers I am very interested in this as well. I have a student with Lebers who is in first grade as well. Progress is very slow in both print and Braille, but she is making more progress in print. I am very curious to hear other experiences and how to best support these students. Thanks! Oriana Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Kraft, Linda D. <lkraft@nd.gov<mailto:lkraft@nd.gov>> wrote: Would anyone care to weigh in on the dual media debate and how to help a child be successful in both print and Braille? This child's prognosis is somewhat questionable at this time. Doctors have suggested that it is likely she will lose vision in the future, but currently she seems to be stable (she is in first grade). Thanks (in advance) for your input! Linda Kraft, Teacher of the Visually Impaired You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org<mailto:aernet@lists.aerbvi.org>. Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org<mailto:aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org> To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. _______________________________________________ AERNet mailing list AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org<mailto:AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org> http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org
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Brink-Chaney, Marcie A
Thu, Jan 26, 2017 8:16 PM

It's like having a person who is deaf learn sign language as well as lip reading. Everyone needs to have the opportunity to learn everything available to communicate. I was and still would be, an optacon user reading print. I found it helpful because I could actually see tactually, what a page looked like using that device. I learned to read raised print when I was in elementary school so that I could read my father's headstone which was written in raised print on a bronze headstone. I was a Braille reader and used talking books from the library from when I was quite young. I am looking forward to the possibility of having a tablet which is a refreshable Braille display with multiple lines. I wanted to teach because I had a first grade teacher who taught me to read using Braille which opened up a whole new world to me. All of you who teach children to read are giving them such a wonderful gift. So keep on keeping on and doing anything to access those wonderful young minds and lives.
Marcie Brink-Chaney CVRT
Visually Impaired Services
Detroit Receiving Hospital University Health Center
Detroit Medical Center
Phone: (313)745-4131
Email: mbrink-c@dmc.orgmailto:mbrink-c@dmc.org


From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Diane Brauner
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 1:47 PM
To: oriana Martinez; Kraft, Linda D.
Cc: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org
Subject: Re: [AERNet] Dual Readers

Food for thought:

Dual Reader or Trio Reader?  Please do not forget that students should also be introduced to auditory reading as well as print and braille.  While I adamantly agree that students need to LEARN to read using print and/or braille, these same students will benefit from auditory reading skills in higher grades.  It is always best to introduce the student to various methods at an early age.  Providing specific opportunities to use auditory skills combined with print or braille is often helpful.  Many students, including those with other reading issues such as student who are dyslexic, is often beneficial. For younger students, "reading" (print and auditory) an interactive story on the iPad can be very motivating!

Diane


From: AERNet aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org on behalf of oriana Martinez golden_ori@hotmail.com
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 9:45 AM
To: Kraft, Linda D.
Cc: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org
Subject: Re: [AERNet] Dual Readers

I am very interested in this as well.  I have a student with Lebers who is in first grade as well.  Progress is very slow in both print and Braille, but she is making more progress in print.  I am very curious to hear other experiences and how to best support these students.

Thanks!

Oriana

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 26, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Kraft, Linda D. <lkraft@nd.govmailto:lkraft@nd.gov> wrote:

Would anyone care to weigh in on the dual media debate and how to help a child be successful in both print and Braille?  This child's prognosis is somewhat questionable at this time.  Doctors have suggested that it is likely she will lose vision in the future, but currently she seems to be stable (she is in first grade).

Thanks (in advance)  for your input!

Linda Kraft, Teacher of the Visually Impaired

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It's like having a person who is deaf learn sign language as well as lip reading. Everyone needs to have the opportunity to learn everything available to communicate. I was and still would be, an optacon user reading print. I found it helpful because I could actually see tactually, what a page looked like using that device. I learned to read raised print when I was in elementary school so that I could read my father's headstone which was written in raised print on a bronze headstone. I was a Braille reader and used talking books from the library from when I was quite young. I am looking forward to the possibility of having a tablet which is a refreshable Braille display with multiple lines. I wanted to teach because I had a first grade teacher who taught me to read using Braille which opened up a whole new world to me. All of you who teach children to read are giving them such a wonderful gift. So keep on keeping on and doing anything to access those wonderful young minds and lives. Marcie Brink-Chaney CVRT Visually Impaired Services Detroit Receiving Hospital University Health Center Detroit Medical Center Phone: (313)745-4131 Email: mbrink-c@dmc.org<mailto:mbrink-c@dmc.org> ________________________________ From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Diane Brauner Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 1:47 PM To: oriana Martinez; Kraft, Linda D. Cc: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org Subject: Re: [AERNet] Dual Readers Food for thought: Dual Reader or Trio Reader? Please do not forget that students should also be introduced to auditory reading as well as print and braille. While I adamantly agree that students need to LEARN to read using print and/or braille, these same students will benefit from auditory reading skills in higher grades. It is always best to introduce the student to various methods at an early age. Providing specific opportunities to use auditory skills combined with print or braille is often helpful. Many students, including those with other reading issues such as student who are dyslexic, is often beneficial. For younger students, "reading" (print and auditory) an interactive story on the iPad can be very motivating! Diane ________________________________ From: AERNet <aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org> on behalf of oriana Martinez <golden_ori@hotmail.com> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 9:45 AM To: Kraft, Linda D. Cc: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org Subject: Re: [AERNet] Dual Readers I am very interested in this as well. I have a student with Lebers who is in first grade as well. Progress is very slow in both print and Braille, but she is making more progress in print. I am very curious to hear other experiences and how to best support these students. Thanks! Oriana Sent from my iPhone On Jan 26, 2017, at 8:50 AM, Kraft, Linda D. <lkraft@nd.gov<mailto:lkraft@nd.gov>> wrote: Would anyone care to weigh in on the dual media debate and how to help a child be successful in both print and Braille? This child's prognosis is somewhat questionable at this time. Doctors have suggested that it is likely she will lose vision in the future, but currently she seems to be stable (she is in first grade). Thanks (in advance) for your input! Linda Kraft, Teacher of the Visually Impaired You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org<mailto:aernet@lists.aerbvi.org>. Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org<mailto:aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org> To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. _______________________________________________ AERNet mailing list AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org<mailto:AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org> http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org This message (including any attachments) is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed, and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete the message (including any attachments) and notify the originator that you received the message in error. Any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifies and with authority, states them to be the views of Tenet Healthcare Corporation.