KNFB Reader
Hello,
I have a middle school student with low vision who just got an IPad with the KNFB Reader app. When we tried it it had some problems - it did not recognized printed material written on whiteboard with marker by teacher and it had accuracy issues with a book - I have two questions - is this typical or are there tips/tricks to get around this? Would a stand improve the accuracy of printed documents like worksheets and books. Also, when we went in to the font settings we were only able to enlarge to 60 font, my student prefers 90 font and will be using the app visually more than auditorily - is there any way to get around that? What I did was save the document and opened it on Voice Dream and she was able to get her preferred size that way. Is there a way around this?
Thanks so much for your help.
Oriana
Hello,
I feel that you are dealing with several problems. The accuracy of the KNFB
Reader is dependent on its camera. Therefore if you are using an older
device the results will not be optimal. Also, like most OCR programs its
stability when taking a picture is critical. Thus using a stand will
greatly improve its results. Finally, the last time I reviewed the
information on the application it was optimized For the iPhone and not the
iPad., Just a suggestion, but if your student is using the device as a low
vision aid, maybe a magnification app would be a better choice.
Hope this helps,
Joe Todd CVRT
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Martinez
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 11:51 AM
To: AER aernet@lists.aerbvi.org
Subject: [AERNet] KNFB Reader
Hello,
I have a middle school student with low vision who just got an IPad with the
KNFB Reader app. When we tried it it had some problems - it did not
recognized printed material written on whiteboard with marker by teacher and
it had accuracy issues with a book - I have two questions - is this typical
or are there tips/tricks to get around this? Would a stand improve the
accuracy of printed documents like worksheets and books. Also, when we went
in to the font settings we were only able to enlarge to 60 font, my student
prefers 90 font and will be using the app visually more than auditorily - is
there any way to get around that? What I did was save the document and
opened it on Voice Dream and she was able to get her preferred size that
way. Is there a way around this?
Thanks so much for your help.
Oriana
If a student needs font that large then I would strongly encourage working
on listening skills because that really isn't practical in life. 72 font is
1 inch so you are talking about print that is 1.2 inches tall. I also would
not want to use the KNFB Reader on an IPad because it would be very hard to
hold it stable enough to get a picture. I think it would work better on an
iPod Touch or iPhone. I am a regular user of the KNFB Reader and it takes
practice to learn to get good pictures.
On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Joe Todd joet1226@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I feel that you are dealing with several problems. The accuracy of the
KNFB Reader is dependent on its camera. Therefore if you are using an
older device the results will not be optimal. Also, like most OCR programs
its stability when taking a picture is critical. Thus using a stand will
greatly improve its results. Finally, the last time I reviewed the
information on the application it was optimized For the iPhone and not
the iPad., Just a suggestion, but if your student is using the device as a
low vision aid, maybe a magnification app would be a better choice.
Hope this helps,
Joe Todd CVRT
From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] *On Behalf Of *oriana
Martinez
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 11:51 AM
To: AER aernet@lists.aerbvi.org
Subject: [AERNet] KNFB Reader
Hello,
I have a middle school student with low vision who just got an IPad with
the KNFB Reader app. When we tried it it had some problems - it did not
recognized printed material written on whiteboard with marker by teacher
and it had accuracy issues with a book - I have two questions - is this
typical or are there tips/tricks to get around this? Would a stand improve
the accuracy of printed documents like worksheets and books. Also, when we
went in to the font settings we were only able to enlarge to 60 font, my
student prefers 90 font and will be using the app visually more than
auditorily - is there any way to get around that? What I did was save the
document and opened it on Voice Dream and she was able to get her preferred
size that way. Is there a way around this?
Thanks so much for your help.
Oriana
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Also, the KNFB reader does not work with hand written materials. I don’t know of any OCR programs that do.
I second the suggestion about using a stand to steady the camera, get the angle right and aid in lining up the paper. The KNFB reader also has tilt guidance and let you know if your phone is level and a preview feature that tells a totally blind user whether or not all of the document is in view.
Best,
Greg
On Sep 17, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Marianne Denning marianne@denningweb.com wrote:
If a student needs font that large then I would strongly encourage working on listening skills because that really isn't practical in life. 72 font is 1 inch so you are talking about print that is 1.2 inches tall. I also would not want to use the KNFB Reader on an IPad because it would be very hard to hold it stable enough to get a picture. I think it would work better on an iPod Touch or iPhone. I am a regular user of the KNFB Reader and it takes practice to learn to get good pictures.
On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Joe Todd <joet1226@gmail.com mailto:joet1226@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I feel that you are dealing with several problems. The accuracy of the KNFB Reader is dependent on its camera. Therefore if you are using an older device the results will not be optimal. Also, like most OCR programs its stability when taking a picture is critical. Thus using a stand will greatly improve its results. Finally, the last time I reviewed the information on the application it was optimized For the iPhone and not the iPad., Just a suggestion, but if your student is using the device as a low vision aid, maybe a magnification app would be a better choice. <>
Hope this helps,
Joe Todd CVRT
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Subject: [AERNet] KNFB Reader
Hello,
I have a middle school student with low vision who just got an IPad with the KNFB Reader app. When we tried it it had some problems - it did not recognized printed material written on whiteboard with marker by teacher and it had accuracy issues with a book - I have two questions - is this typical or are there tips/tricks to get around this? Would a stand improve the accuracy of printed documents like worksheets and books. Also, when we went in to the font settings we were only able to enlarge to 60 font, my student prefers 90 font and will be using the app visually more than auditorily - is there any way to get around that? What I did was save the document and opened it on Voice Dream and she was able to get her preferred size that way. Is there a way around this?
Thanks so much for your help.
Oriana
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(513) 607-6053
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Thank you all! Very helpful information. Thanks! Oriana
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Subject: Re: [AERNet] KNFB Reader
Also, the KNFB reader does not work with hand written materials. I don’t know of any OCR programs that do.
I second the suggestion about using a stand to steady the camera, get the angle right and aid in lining up the paper. The KNFB reader also has tilt guidance and let you know if your phone is level and a preview feature that tells a totally blind user whether or not all of the document is in view.
Best,
Greg
On Sep 17, 2016, at 10:01 AM, Marianne Denning <marianne@denningweb.commailto:marianne@denningweb.com> wrote:
If a student needs font that large then I would strongly encourage working on listening skills because that really isn't practical in life. 72 font is 1 inch so you are talking about print that is 1.2 inches tall. I also would not want to use the KNFB Reader on an IPad because it would be very hard to hold it stable enough to get a picture. I think it would work better on an iPod Touch or iPhone. I am a regular user of the KNFB Reader and it takes practice to learn to get good pictures.
On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 9:53 AM, Joe Todd <joet1226@gmail.commailto:joet1226@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I feel that you are dealing with several problems. The accuracy of the KNFB Reader is dependent on its camera. Therefore if you are using an older device the results will not be optimal. Also, like most OCR programs its stability when taking a picture is critical. Thus using a stand will greatly improve its results. Finally, the last time I reviewed the information on the application it was optimized For the iPhone and not the iPad., Just a suggestion, but if your student is using the device as a low vision aid, maybe a magnification app would be a better choice.
Hope this helps,
Joe Todd CVRT
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Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 11:51 AM
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Subject: [AERNet] KNFB Reader
Hello,
I have a middle school student with low vision who just got an IPad with the KNFB Reader app. When we tried it it had some problems - it did not recognized printed material written on whiteboard with marker by teacher and it had accuracy issues with a book - I have two questions - is this typical or are there tips/tricks to get around this? Would a stand improve the accuracy of printed documents like worksheets and books. Also, when we went in to the font settings we were only able to enlarge to 60 font, my student prefers 90 font and will be using the app visually more than auditorily - is there any way to get around that? What I did was save the document and opened it on Voice Dream and she was able to get her preferred size that way. Is there a way around this?
Thanks so much for your help.
Oriana
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