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Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays

LF
Lisa Faret
Mon, Sep 19, 2016 6:57 PM

Hi,

Does anyone have a suggestion for a lightweight laptop PC that works well
with JAWS and connects easily via bluetooth to a braille display, (APH
Refreshabraille 18)?

Thanks,
Lisa Faret

Hi, Does anyone have a suggestion for a lightweight laptop PC that works well with JAWS and connects easily via bluetooth to a braille display, (APH Refreshabraille 18)? Thanks, Lisa Faret
MD
Marianne Denning
Mon, Sep 19, 2016 7:11 PM

I will assume that you want a Windows computer. If so, I would recommend a
technology evaluation for your student to determine the exact computer and
appropriate software. Will your student be using Windows 10 or 7? How will
your student be using the computer? Does your student have good strong
computer skills? I have an Acer and use JAWS and a braille display but that
may not be the right computer for your daughter.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Lisa Faret faretlisa@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone have a suggestion for a lightweight laptop PC that works well
with JAWS and connects easily via bluetooth to a braille display, (APH
Refreshabraille 18)?

Thanks,
Lisa Faret

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Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
(513) 607-6053

I will assume that you want a Windows computer. If so, I would recommend a technology evaluation for your student to determine the exact computer and appropriate software. Will your student be using Windows 10 or 7? How will your student be using the computer? Does your student have good strong computer skills? I have an Acer and use JAWS and a braille display but that may not be the right computer for your daughter. On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Lisa Faret <faretlisa@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone have a suggestion for a lightweight laptop PC that works well > with JAWS and connects easily via bluetooth to a braille display, (APH > Refreshabraille 18)? > > Thanks, > Lisa Faret > > > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and > Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. > > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to > aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. > > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/ > mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to > unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. > _______________________________________________ > AERNet mailing list > AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org > > -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053
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Larry L. Lewis, Jr.
Mon, Sep 19, 2016 7:20 PM

Greetings,

I’m a big fan of the HP laptops with the built-in numeric keyboards—excellent for Jaws usage.  http://www.ultrabookreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/hp-pavilion-15s.jpg The Pavilion 15s offers solid specs and are more affordable than the competition and the Bluetooth connectivity on them are fantastic-they’re a little heavier than most, and you’ll need to remove some of the manufacturer garbage on them for a more optimal screenreading experience, but they’re a solid option. Whatever you decide, even though Jaws has a laptop keyboard layout—I’m a big fan of teaching advanced Jaws concepts with the numpad.

Smile

Warmest Regards,

Larry L. Lewis, Jr.

President and Founder

Flying Blind, LLC

Flying Blind Logo: A Braille Cell with a Wing

Office Phone: +1 (216) 381-8107

Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353

E-Mail:  mailto:larry.lewis@flying-blind.com Larry.Lewis@Flying-Blind.com

Visit Flying Blind on the  http://www.flying-blind.com/ Web

Shop for High Tech and Low Tech Products In The  http://www.flying-blind.com/store.html Flying Blind Product Store

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From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Faret
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:58 PM
To: AERNET Questions
Subject: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays

Hi,

Does anyone have a suggestion for a lightweight laptop PC that works well with JAWS and connects easily via bluetooth to a braille display, (APH Refreshabraille 18)?

Thanks,

Lisa Faret

Greetings, I’m a big fan of the HP laptops with the built-in numeric keyboards—excellent for Jaws usage. <http://www.ultrabookreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/hp-pavilion-15s.jpg> The Pavilion 15s offers solid specs and are more affordable than the competition and the Bluetooth connectivity on them are fantastic-they’re a little heavier than most, and you’ll need to remove some of the manufacturer garbage on them for a more optimal screenreading experience, but they’re a solid option. Whatever you decide, even though Jaws has a laptop keyboard layout—I’m a big fan of teaching advanced Jaws concepts with the numpad. Smile Warmest Regards, Larry L. Lewis, Jr. President and Founder Flying Blind, LLC Flying Blind Logo: A Braille Cell with a Wing Office Phone: +1 (216) 381-8107 Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353 E-Mail: <mailto:larry.lewis@flying-blind.com> Larry.Lewis@Flying-Blind.com Visit Flying Blind on the <http://www.flying-blind.com/> Web Shop for High Tech and Low Tech Products In The <http://www.flying-blind.com/store.html> Flying Blind Product Store And Connect with Flying Blind on <http://www.facebook.com/flyingblindllc> Facebook, <http://www.youtube.com/flyingblindllc> YouTube, and <http://www.linkedin.com/in/LarryLLewisJR> LinkedIn From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Faret Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:58 PM To: AERNET Questions Subject: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays Hi, Does anyone have a suggestion for a lightweight laptop PC that works well with JAWS and connects easily via bluetooth to a braille display, (APH Refreshabraille 18)? Thanks, Lisa Faret
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Leah Gerlach
Mon, Sep 19, 2016 7:42 PM

I agree with Larry.

Leah Gerlach, M.S.
Rehabilitation Counselor, and Access Technology Specialist
[cid:image004.jpg@01D21284.01E084C0]
at Deicke House
219 East Cole Avenue
Wheaton, IL 60187
P: 1-630-690-7115 ext. 122
F: 1-630-690-9037
www.spectrios.orghttp://www.spectrios.org/

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Thank you.

From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Larry L. Lewis, Jr.
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:21 PM
To: 'Lisa Faret' faretlisa@gmail.com; 'AERNET Questions' aernet@lists.aerbvi.org
Subject: Re: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays

Greetings,

I’m a big fan of the HP laptops with the built-in numeric keyboards—excellent for Jaws usage. [The Pavilion 15s offers solid specs and are more affordable than the competition] http://www.ultrabookreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/hp-pavilion-15s.jpg  and the Bluetooth connectivity on them are fantastic-they’re a little heavier than most, and you’ll need to remove some of the manufacturer garbage on them for a more optimal screenreading experience, but they’re a solid option. Whatever you decide, even though Jaws has a laptop keyboard layout—I’m a big fan of teaching advanced Jaws concepts with the numpad.

[Smile]
Warmest Regards,
Larry L. Lewis, Jr.
President and Founder
Flying Blind, LLC
[Flying Blind Logo: A Braille Cell with a Wing]
Office Phone: +1 (216) 381-8107
Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353
E-Mail: Larry.Lewis@Flying-Blind.commailto:larry.lewis@flying-blind.com
Visit Flying Blind on the Webhttp://www.flying-blind.com/
Shop for High Tech and Low Tech Products In The Flying Blind Product Storehttp://www.flying-blind.com/store.html
And Connect with Flying Blind on Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/flyingblindllc, YouTubehttp://www.youtube.com/flyingblindllc, and LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/LarryLLewisJR

From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Faret
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:58 PM
To: AERNET Questions
Subject: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays

Hi,

Does anyone have a suggestion for a lightweight laptop PC that works well with JAWS and connects easily via bluetooth to a braille display, (APH Refreshabraille 18)?

Thanks,
Lisa Faret

I agree with Larry. Leah Gerlach, M.S. Rehabilitation Counselor, and Access Technology Specialist [cid:image004.jpg@01D21284.01E084C0] at Deicke House 219 East Cole Avenue Wheaton, IL 60187 P: 1-630-690-7115 ext. 122 F: 1-630-690-9037 www.spectrios.org<http://www.spectrios.org/> Spread the Joy of Vision! Please make a donation to help children and adults with permanent vision loss. Call us or go to our website and click on Donate Now to make a donation. Thank you for your support! The information contained in this electronic mail transmittal is protected by law and is intended only for the use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this transmission is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution or duplication of its contents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete the transmittal immediately. Thank you. From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:21 PM To: 'Lisa Faret' <faretlisa@gmail.com>; 'AERNET Questions' <aernet@lists.aerbvi.org> Subject: Re: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays Greetings, I’m a big fan of the HP laptops with the built-in numeric keyboards—excellent for Jaws usage. [The Pavilion 15s offers solid specs and are more affordable than the competition] <http://www.ultrabookreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/hp-pavilion-15s.jpg> and the Bluetooth connectivity on them are fantastic-they’re a little heavier than most, and you’ll need to remove some of the manufacturer garbage on them for a more optimal screenreading experience, but they’re a solid option. Whatever you decide, even though Jaws has a laptop keyboard layout—I’m a big fan of teaching advanced Jaws concepts with the numpad. [Smile] Warmest Regards, Larry L. Lewis, Jr. President and Founder Flying Blind, LLC [Flying Blind Logo: A Braille Cell with a Wing] Office Phone: +1 (216) 381-8107 Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353 E-Mail: Larry.Lewis@Flying-Blind.com<mailto:larry.lewis@flying-blind.com> Visit Flying Blind on the Web<http://www.flying-blind.com/> Shop for High Tech and Low Tech Products In The Flying Blind Product Store<http://www.flying-blind.com/store.html> And Connect with Flying Blind on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/flyingblindllc>, YouTube<http://www.youtube.com/flyingblindllc>, and LinkedIn<http://www.linkedin.com/in/LarryLLewisJR> From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Faret Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:58 PM To: AERNET Questions Subject: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays Hi, Does anyone have a suggestion for a lightweight laptop PC that works well with JAWS and connects easily via bluetooth to a braille display, (APH Refreshabraille 18)? Thanks, Lisa Faret
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Shannon Pruitt
Mon, Sep 19, 2016 7:46 PM

If you're not married to Jaws, I would suggest using NVDA instead.

On Sep 19, 2016, at 3:42 PM, Leah Gerlach GerlachL@Spectrios.org wrote:

I agree with Larry.

Leah Gerlach, M.S.
Rehabilitation Counselor, and Access Technology Specialist
<image004.jpg>
at Deicke House
219 East Cole Avenue
Wheaton, IL 60187
P: 1-630-690-7115 ext. 122
F: 1-630-690-9037
www.spectrios.org

Spread the Joy of Vision!  Please make a donation to help children and adults with permanent vision loss.  Call us or go to our website and click on Donate Now to make a donation.  Thank you for your support!

The information contained in this electronic mail transmittal is protected by law and is intended only for the use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this transmission is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution or duplication of its contents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete the transmittal immediately.
Thank you.

From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Larry L. Lewis, Jr.
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:21 PM
To: 'Lisa Faret' faretlisa@gmail.com; 'AERNET Questions' aernet@lists.aerbvi.org
Subject: Re: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays

Greetings,

I’m a big fan of the HP laptops with the built-in numeric keyboards—excellent for Jaws usage. <image005.jpg> and the Bluetooth connectivity on them are fantastic-they’re a little heavier than most, and you’ll need to remove some of the manufacturer garbage on them for a more optimal screenreading experience, but they’re a solid option. Whatever you decide, even though Jaws has a laptop keyboard layout—I’m a big fan of teaching advanced Jaws concepts with the numpad.

<image006.png>
Warmest Regards,
Larry L. Lewis, Jr.
President and Founder
Flying Blind, LLC
<image007.jpg>
Office Phone: +1 (216) 381-8107
Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353
E-Mail: Larry.Lewis@Flying-Blind.com
Visit Flying Blind on the Web
Shop for High Tech and Low Tech Products In The Flying Blind Product Store
And Connect with Flying Blind on Facebook, YouTube, and LinkedIn

From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Faret
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:58 PM
To: AERNET Questions
Subject: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays

Hi,

Does anyone have a suggestion for a lightweight laptop PC that works well with JAWS and connects easily via bluetooth to a braille display, (APH Refreshabraille 18)?

Thanks,
Lisa Faret

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If you're not married to Jaws, I would suggest using NVDA instead. > On Sep 19, 2016, at 3:42 PM, Leah Gerlach <GerlachL@Spectrios.org> wrote: > > I agree with Larry. > > > Leah Gerlach, M.S. > Rehabilitation Counselor, and Access Technology Specialist > <image004.jpg> > at Deicke House > 219 East Cole Avenue > Wheaton, IL 60187 > P: 1-630-690-7115 ext. 122 > F: 1-630-690-9037 > www.spectrios.org > > Spread the Joy of Vision! Please make a donation to help children and adults with permanent vision loss. Call us or go to our website and click on Donate Now to make a donation. Thank you for your support! > > The information contained in this electronic mail transmittal is protected by law and is intended only for the use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this transmission is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution or duplication of its contents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete the transmittal immediately. > Thank you. > > > > From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Larry L. Lewis, Jr. > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:21 PM > To: 'Lisa Faret' <faretlisa@gmail.com>; 'AERNET Questions' <aernet@lists.aerbvi.org> > Subject: Re: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays > > Greetings, > > I’m a big fan of the HP laptops with the built-in numeric keyboards—excellent for Jaws usage. <image005.jpg> and the Bluetooth connectivity on them are fantastic-they’re a little heavier than most, and you’ll need to remove some of the manufacturer garbage on them for a more optimal screenreading experience, but they’re a solid option. Whatever you decide, even though Jaws has a laptop keyboard layout—I’m a big fan of teaching advanced Jaws concepts with the numpad. > > <image006.png> > Warmest Regards, > Larry L. Lewis, Jr. > President and Founder > Flying Blind, LLC > <image007.jpg> > Office Phone: +1 (216) 381-8107 > Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353 > E-Mail: Larry.Lewis@Flying-Blind.com > Visit Flying Blind on the Web > Shop for High Tech and Low Tech Products In The Flying Blind Product Store > And Connect with Flying Blind on Facebook, YouTube, and LinkedIn > > From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Faret > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:58 PM > To: AERNET Questions > Subject: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays > > Hi, > > Does anyone have a suggestion for a lightweight laptop PC that works well with JAWS and connects easily via bluetooth to a braille display, (APH Refreshabraille 18)? > > Thanks, > Lisa Faret > > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. > > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. > > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. > _______________________________________________ > AERNet mailing list > AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org
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Candy Lien
Mon, Sep 19, 2016 7:47 PM

I agree it is important to use a full-size keyboard with Jaws. I just bought an ASUS this past summer and have Jaws 17 on it, and it works great! I don’t use a braille display, however. It was on sale at Best Buy, and was very reasonable. This laptop is slim  and not too heavy. I have it in a case with a cross-body strap.
Candy Lien, TVI

From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Larry L. Lewis, Jr.
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:21 PM
To: 'Lisa Faret'; 'AERNET Questions'
Subject: Re: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays

Greetings,

I’m a big fan of the HP laptops with the built-in numeric keyboards—excellent for Jaws usage. [The Pavilion 15s offers solid specs and are more affordable than the competition] http://www.ultrabookreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/hp-pavilion-15s.jpg  and the Bluetooth connectivity on them are fantastic-they’re a little heavier than most, and you’ll need to remove some of the manufacturer garbage on them for a more optimal screenreading experience, but they’re a solid option. Whatever you decide, even though Jaws has a laptop keyboard layout—I’m a big fan of teaching advanced Jaws concepts with the numpad.

[Smile]
Warmest Regards,
Larry L. Lewis, Jr.
President and Founder
Flying Blind, LLC
[Flying Blind Logo: A Braille Cell with a Wing]
Office Phone: +1 (216) 381-8107
Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353
E-Mail: Larry.Lewis@Flying-Blind.commailto:larry.lewis@flying-blind.com
Visit Flying Blind on the Webhttp://www.flying-blind.com/
Shop for High Tech and Low Tech Products In The Flying Blind Product Storehttp://www.flying-blind.com/store.html
And Connect with Flying Blind on Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/flyingblindllc, YouTubehttp://www.youtube.com/flyingblindllc, and LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/LarryLLewisJR

From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Faret
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:58 PM
To: AERNET Questions
Subject: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays

Hi,

Does anyone have a suggestion for a lightweight laptop PC that works well with JAWS and connects easily via bluetooth to a braille display, (APH Refreshabraille 18)?

Thanks,
Lisa Faret

I agree it is important to use a full-size keyboard with Jaws. I just bought an ASUS this past summer and have Jaws 17 on it, and it works great! I don’t use a braille display, however. It was on sale at Best Buy, and was very reasonable. This laptop is slim and not too heavy. I have it in a case with a cross-body strap. Candy Lien, TVI From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:21 PM To: 'Lisa Faret'; 'AERNET Questions' Subject: Re: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays Greetings, I’m a big fan of the HP laptops with the built-in numeric keyboards—excellent for Jaws usage. [The Pavilion 15s offers solid specs and are more affordable than the competition] <http://www.ultrabookreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/hp-pavilion-15s.jpg> and the Bluetooth connectivity on them are fantastic-they’re a little heavier than most, and you’ll need to remove some of the manufacturer garbage on them for a more optimal screenreading experience, but they’re a solid option. Whatever you decide, even though Jaws has a laptop keyboard layout—I’m a big fan of teaching advanced Jaws concepts with the numpad. [Smile] Warmest Regards, Larry L. Lewis, Jr. President and Founder Flying Blind, LLC [Flying Blind Logo: A Braille Cell with a Wing] Office Phone: +1 (216) 381-8107 Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353 E-Mail: Larry.Lewis@Flying-Blind.com<mailto:larry.lewis@flying-blind.com> Visit Flying Blind on the Web<http://www.flying-blind.com/> Shop for High Tech and Low Tech Products In The Flying Blind Product Store<http://www.flying-blind.com/store.html> And Connect with Flying Blind on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/flyingblindllc>, YouTube<http://www.youtube.com/flyingblindllc>, and LinkedIn<http://www.linkedin.com/in/LarryLLewisJR> From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Faret Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:58 PM To: AERNET Questions Subject: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays Hi, Does anyone have a suggestion for a lightweight laptop PC that works well with JAWS and connects easily via bluetooth to a braille display, (APH Refreshabraille 18)? Thanks, Lisa Faret
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Larry L. Lewis, Jr.
Mon, Sep 19, 2016 8:12 PM

For the record—I’m a huge NVDA fan—as long as the individual understands that it is “freeware”, meaning “no technical support” in the traditional sense of the word, I say roll with NVDA as an alternative. It’d fantastic on the web, and is continually improving with Microsoft Office and Google Apps.

Smile

Warmest Regards,

Larry L. Lewis, Jr.

President and Founder

Flying Blind, LLC

Flying Blind Logo: A Braille Cell with a Wing

Office Phone: +1 (216) 381-8107

Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353

E-Mail:  mailto:larry.lewis@flying-blind.com Larry.Lewis@Flying-Blind.com

Visit Flying Blind on the  http://www.flying-blind.com/ Web

Shop for High Tech and Low Tech Products In The  http://www.flying-blind.com/store.html Flying Blind Product Store

And Connect with Flying Blind on  http://www.facebook.com/flyingblindllc Facebook,  http://www.youtube.com/flyingblindllc YouTube, and  http://www.linkedin.com/in/LarryLLewisJR LinkedIn

From: Shannon Pruitt [mailto:sdpruitt99@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 3:47 PM
To: Leah Gerlach
Cc: Larry L. Lewis, Jr.; Lisa Faret; AERNET Questions
Subject: Re: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays

If you're not married to Jaws, I would suggest using NVDA instead.

On Sep 19, 2016, at 3:42 PM, Leah Gerlach GerlachL@Spectrios.org wrote:

I agree with Larry.

Leah Gerlach, M.S.

Rehabilitation Counselor, and Access Technology Specialist

<image004.jpg>

at Deicke House
219 East Cole Avenue
Wheaton, IL 60187

P: 1-630-690-7115 ext. 122
F: 1-630-690-9037
http://www.spectrios.org/ www.spectrios.org

Spread the Joy of Vision!  Please make a donation to help children and adults with permanent vision loss.  Call us or go to our website and click on Donate Now to make a donation.  Thank you for your support!

The information contained in this electronic mail transmittal is protected by law and is intended only for the use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this transmission is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution or duplication of its contents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete the transmittal immediately.

Thank you.

From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Larry L. Lewis, Jr.
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:21 PM
To: 'Lisa Faret' faretlisa@gmail.com; 'AERNET Questions' aernet@lists.aerbvi.org
Subject: Re: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays

Greetings,

I’m a big fan of the HP laptops with the built-in numeric keyboards—excellent for Jaws usage.  http://www.ultrabookreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/hp-pavilion-15s.jpg <image005.jpg> and the Bluetooth connectivity on them are fantastic-they’re a little heavier than most, and you’ll need to remove some of the manufacturer garbage on them for a more optimal screenreading experience, but they’re a solid option. Whatever you decide, even though Jaws has a laptop keyboard layout—I’m a big fan of teaching advanced Jaws concepts with the numpad.

<image006.png>

Warmest Regards,

Larry L. Lewis, Jr.

President and Founder

Flying Blind, LLC

<image007.jpg>

Office Phone: +1 (216) 381-8107

Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353

E-Mail:  mailto:larry.lewis@flying-blind.com Larry.Lewis@Flying-Blind.com

Visit Flying Blind on the  http://www.flying-blind.com/ Web

Shop for High Tech and Low Tech Products In The  http://www.flying-blind.com/store.html Flying Blind Product Store

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Hi,

Does anyone have a suggestion for a lightweight laptop PC that works well with JAWS and connects easily via bluetooth to a braille display, (APH Refreshabraille 18)?

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For the record—I’m a huge NVDA fan—as long as the individual understands that it is “freeware”, meaning “no technical support” in the traditional sense of the word, I say roll with NVDA as an alternative. It’d fantastic on the web, and is continually improving with Microsoft Office and Google Apps. Smile Warmest Regards, Larry L. Lewis, Jr. President and Founder Flying Blind, LLC Flying Blind Logo: A Braille Cell with a Wing Office Phone: +1 (216) 381-8107 Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353 E-Mail: <mailto:larry.lewis@flying-blind.com> Larry.Lewis@Flying-Blind.com Visit Flying Blind on the <http://www.flying-blind.com/> Web Shop for High Tech and Low Tech Products In The <http://www.flying-blind.com/store.html> Flying Blind Product Store And Connect with Flying Blind on <http://www.facebook.com/flyingblindllc> Facebook, <http://www.youtube.com/flyingblindllc> YouTube, and <http://www.linkedin.com/in/LarryLLewisJR> LinkedIn From: Shannon Pruitt [mailto:sdpruitt99@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 3:47 PM To: Leah Gerlach Cc: Larry L. Lewis, Jr.; Lisa Faret; AERNET Questions Subject: Re: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays If you're not married to Jaws, I would suggest using NVDA instead. On Sep 19, 2016, at 3:42 PM, Leah Gerlach <GerlachL@Spectrios.org> wrote: I agree with Larry. Leah Gerlach, M.S. Rehabilitation Counselor, and Access Technology Specialist <image004.jpg> at Deicke House 219 East Cole Avenue Wheaton, IL 60187 P: 1-630-690-7115 ext. 122 F: 1-630-690-9037 <http://www.spectrios.org/> www.spectrios.org Spread the Joy of Vision! Please make a donation to help children and adults with permanent vision loss. Call us or go to our website and click on Donate Now to make a donation. Thank you for your support! The information contained in this electronic mail transmittal is protected by law and is intended only for the use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this transmission is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution or duplication of its contents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete the transmittal immediately. Thank you. From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:21 PM To: 'Lisa Faret' <faretlisa@gmail.com>; 'AERNET Questions' <aernet@lists.aerbvi.org> Subject: Re: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays Greetings, I’m a big fan of the HP laptops with the built-in numeric keyboards—excellent for Jaws usage. <http://www.ultrabookreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/hp-pavilion-15s.jpg> <image005.jpg> and the Bluetooth connectivity on them are fantastic-they’re a little heavier than most, and you’ll need to remove some of the manufacturer garbage on them for a more optimal screenreading experience, but they’re a solid option. Whatever you decide, even though Jaws has a laptop keyboard layout—I’m a big fan of teaching advanced Jaws concepts with the numpad. <image006.png> Warmest Regards, Larry L. Lewis, Jr. President and Founder Flying Blind, LLC <image007.jpg> Office Phone: +1 (216) 381-8107 Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353 E-Mail: <mailto:larry.lewis@flying-blind.com> Larry.Lewis@Flying-Blind.com Visit Flying Blind on the <http://www.flying-blind.com/> Web Shop for High Tech and Low Tech Products In The <http://www.flying-blind.com/store.html> Flying Blind Product Store And Connect with Flying Blind on <http://www.facebook.com/flyingblindllc> Facebook, <http://www.youtube.com/flyingblindllc> YouTube, and <http://www.linkedin.com/in/LarryLLewisJR> LinkedIn From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Faret Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:58 PM To: AERNET Questions Subject: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays Hi, Does anyone have a suggestion for a lightweight laptop PC that works well with JAWS and connects easily via bluetooth to a braille display, (APH Refreshabraille 18)? Thanks, Lisa Faret You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. _______________________________________________ AERNet mailing list AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org
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Dr Denise Robinson
Wed, Sep 21, 2016 2:18 PM

I totally agree with everything Larry said.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Larry L. Lewis, Jr. <
Larry.Lewis@flying-blind.com> wrote:

For the record—I’m a huge NVDA fan—as long as the individual understands
that it is “freeware”, meaning “no technical support” in the traditional
sense of the word, I say roll with NVDA as an alternative. It’d fantastic
on the web, and is continually improving with Microsoft Office and Google
Apps.

[image: Smile]

Warmest Regards,

Larry L. Lewis, Jr.

President and Founder

Flying Blind, LLC

[image: Flying Blind Logo: A Braille Cell with a Wing]

Office Phone: +1 (216) 381-8107

Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353

E-Mail: Larry.Lewis@Flying-Blind.com larry.lewis@flying-blind.com

Visit Flying Blind on the Web http://www.flying-blind.com/

Shop for High Tech and Low Tech Products In The Flying Blind Product Store
http://www.flying-blind.com/store.html

And Connect with Flying Blind on Facebook
http://www.facebook.com/flyingblindllc, YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/flyingblindllc, and LinkedIn
http://www.linkedin.com/in/LarryLLewisJR

From: Shannon Pruitt [mailto:sdpruitt99@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 3:47 PM
To: Leah Gerlach
Cc: Larry L. Lewis, Jr.; Lisa Faret; AERNET Questions
Subject: Re: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays

If you're not married to Jaws, I would suggest using NVDA instead.

On Sep 19, 2016, at 3:42 PM, Leah Gerlach GerlachL@Spectrios.org wrote:

I agree with Larry.

Leah Gerlach, M.S.

Rehabilitation Counselor, and Access Technology Specialist

<image004.jpg>

at Deicke House
219 East Cole Avenue
Wheaton, IL 60187

P: 1-630-690-7115 ext. 122
F: 1-630-690-9037
www.spectrios.org

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aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] *On Behalf Of *Larry L. Lewis, Jr.
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:21 PM
To: 'Lisa Faret' faretlisa@gmail.com; 'AERNET Questions' <
aernet@lists.aerbvi.org>
Subject: Re: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays

Greetings,

I’m a big fan of the HP laptops with the built-in numeric
keyboards—excellent for Jaws usage. <image005.jpg>
http://www.ultrabookreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/hp-pavilion-15s.jpg and
the Bluetooth connectivity on them are fantastic-they’re a little heavier
than most, and you’ll need to remove some of the manufacturer garbage on
them for a more optimal screenreading experience, but they’re a solid
option. Whatever you decide, even though Jaws has a laptop keyboard
layout—I’m a big fan of teaching advanced Jaws concepts with the numpad.

<image006.png>

Warmest Regards,

Larry L. Lewis, Jr.

President and Founder

Flying Blind, LLC

<image007.jpg>

Office Phone: +1 (216) 381-8107

Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353

E-Mail: Larry.Lewis@Flying-Blind.com larry.lewis@flying-blind.com

Visit Flying Blind on the Web http://www.flying-blind.com/

Shop for High Tech and Low Tech Products In The Flying Blind Product Store
http://www.flying-blind.com/store.html

And Connect with Flying Blind on Facebook
http://www.facebook.com/flyingblindllc, YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/flyingblindllc, and LinkedIn
http://www.linkedin.com/in/LarryLLewisJR

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aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] *On Behalf Of *Lisa Faret
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:58 PM
To: AERNET Questions
Subject: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays

Hi,

Does anyone have a suggestion for a lightweight laptop PC that works well
with JAWS and connects easily via bluetooth to a braille display, (APH
Refreshabraille 18)?

Thanks,

Lisa Faret

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I totally agree with everything Larry said. On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Larry L. Lewis, Jr. < Larry.Lewis@flying-blind.com> wrote: > For the record—I’m a huge NVDA fan—as long as the individual understands > that it is “freeware”, meaning “no technical support” in the traditional > sense of the word, I say roll with NVDA as an alternative. It’d fantastic > on the web, and is continually improving with Microsoft Office and Google > Apps. > > > > [image: Smile] > > Warmest Regards, > > Larry L. Lewis, Jr. > > President and Founder > > Flying Blind, LLC > > [image: Flying Blind Logo: A Braille Cell with a Wing] > > Office Phone: +1 (216) 381-8107 > > Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353 > > E-Mail: Larry.Lewis@Flying-Blind.com <larry.lewis@flying-blind.com> > > Visit Flying Blind on the Web <http://www.flying-blind.com/> > > Shop for High Tech and Low Tech Products In The Flying Blind Product Store > <http://www.flying-blind.com/store.html> > > And Connect with Flying Blind on Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/flyingblindllc>, YouTube > <http://www.youtube.com/flyingblindllc>, and LinkedIn > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/LarryLLewisJR> > > > > *From:* Shannon Pruitt [mailto:sdpruitt99@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2016 3:47 PM > *To:* Leah Gerlach > *Cc:* Larry L. Lewis, Jr.; Lisa Faret; AERNET Questions > *Subject:* Re: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays > > > > If you're not married to Jaws, I would suggest using NVDA instead. > > > On Sep 19, 2016, at 3:42 PM, Leah Gerlach <GerlachL@Spectrios.org> wrote: > > I agree with Larry. > > > > > > Leah Gerlach, M.S. > > Rehabilitation Counselor, and Access Technology Specialist > > <image004.jpg> > > at Deicke House > 219 East Cole Avenue > Wheaton, IL 60187 > > P: 1-630-690-7115 ext. 122 > F: 1-630-690-9037 > www.spectrios.org > > > > *Spread the Joy of Vision!* Please make a donation to help children and > adults with permanent vision loss. Call us or go to our website and click > on *Donate Now* to make a donation. Thank you for your support! > > > > The information contained in this electronic mail transmittal is protected > by law and is intended only for the use of the designated recipient(s) > named above. If the reader of this transmission is not the intended > recipient(s), you are notified that any disclosure, dissemination, > distribution or duplication of its contents is strictly prohibited. If you > have received this transmittal in error, please notify the sender by return > e-mail and delete the transmittal immediately. > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > *From:* AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org > <aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org>] *On Behalf Of *Larry L. Lewis, Jr. > *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2016 2:21 PM > *To:* 'Lisa Faret' <faretlisa@gmail.com>; 'AERNET Questions' < > aernet@lists.aerbvi.org> > *Subject:* Re: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays > > > > Greetings, > > > > I’m a big fan of the HP laptops with the built-in numeric > keyboards—excellent for Jaws usage. <image005.jpg> > <http://www.ultrabookreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/hp-pavilion-15s.jpg> and > the Bluetooth connectivity on them are fantastic-they’re a little heavier > than most, and you’ll need to remove some of the manufacturer garbage on > them for a more optimal screenreading experience, but they’re a solid > option. Whatever you decide, even though Jaws has a laptop keyboard > layout—I’m a big fan of teaching advanced Jaws concepts with the numpad. > > > > <image006.png> > > Warmest Regards, > > Larry L. Lewis, Jr. > > President and Founder > > Flying Blind, LLC > > <image007.jpg> > > Office Phone: +1 (216) 381-8107 > > Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353 > > E-Mail: Larry.Lewis@Flying-Blind.com <larry.lewis@flying-blind.com> > > Visit Flying Blind on the Web <http://www.flying-blind.com/> > > Shop for High Tech and Low Tech Products In The Flying Blind Product Store > <http://www.flying-blind.com/store.html> > > And Connect with Flying Blind on Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/flyingblindllc>, YouTube > <http://www.youtube.com/flyingblindllc>, and LinkedIn > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/LarryLLewisJR> > > > > *From:* AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org > <aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org>] *On Behalf Of *Lisa Faret > *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2016 2:58 PM > *To:* AERNET Questions > *Subject:* [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays > > > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone have a suggestion for a lightweight laptop PC that works well > with JAWS and connects easily via bluetooth to a braille display, (APH > Refreshabraille 18)? > > > > Thanks, > > Lisa Faret > > > > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and > Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. > > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to > aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. > > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/ > mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to > unsubscribe. 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Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. CEO, TechVision Specialist in blind technology/teaching/training/virtual instruction around the world Braille certified email: yourtechvision@gmail.com <deniserob@gmail.com> 423-573-6413 Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com
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Brink-Chaney, Marcie A
Wed, Sep 21, 2016 7:17 PM

Sitting here in a classroom situation where I train VI folks from age 14 to 90 or older, I hate when VR counselors/families... get laptops without even looking at them and expect them to be user friendly to these people. Laptops which use keys to make keys do multiple tasks and/or laptops which have no discernable number pads and or arrow keys irritate me. When the keys are absolutely flat and relatively small, that irritates me too. Whenever I get those laptops to work with, I encourage a person to get a full size keyboard to use especially when these people are new to blindness and/or keyboarding. These new bluetooth mobile keyboards that work with phones and tablets, could probably be an alternative that would work very well. I have a universal mobile keyboard that I like quite well when not using my Apex. I am going to pose a question which is not exactly related to the topic. I believe that desktops and possibly even laptops may become obsolete with the portable keyboards with or without tablets and phones which are just as accessible as computers and a lot more portable. Also, with baby boomers getting older and losing vision, I think people would much rather talk to something or do simple gestures than type. And that doesn't even take devices such as Amazon Echo and apps such as google voice and siri. More and more people are actually working with their phones and tablets to do work from home. What do you think this implies for teaching technology? I am wondering just how necessary it is to teach seniors how to type and use desktop/traditional computers.
Marcie Brink-Chaney CVRT
Detroit Receiving Hospital University Health Center
Detroit Medical Center
Phone: (313)745-4131
Email: mbrink-c@dmc.orgmailto:mbrink-c@dmc.org


From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Dr Denise Robinson
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:19 AM
To: Larry L. Lewis, Jr.
Cc: AERNET Questions
Subject: Re: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays

I totally agree with everything Larry said.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Larry L. Lewis, Jr. <Larry.Lewis@flying-blind.commailto:Larry.Lewis@flying-blind.com> wrote:
For the record-I'm a huge NVDA fan-as long as the individual understands that it is "freeware", meaning "no technical support" in the traditional sense of the word, I say roll with NVDA as an alternative. It'd fantastic on the web, and is continually improving with Microsoft Office and Google Apps.

[cid:307240019@21092016-1584]
Warmest Regards,
Larry L. Lewis, Jr.
President and Founder
Flying Blind, LLC
[cid:307240019@21092016-158B]
Office Phone: +1 (216) 381-8107tel:%2B1%20%28216%29%20381-8107
Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353tel:%2B1%20%28216%29%20502-3353
E-Mail: Larry.Lewis@Flying-Blind.commailto:larry.lewis@flying-blind.com
Visit Flying Blind on the Webhttp://www.flying-blind.com/
Shop for High Tech and Low Tech Products In The Flying Blind Product Storehttp://www.flying-blind.com/store.html
And Connect with Flying Blind on Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/flyingblindllc, YouTubehttp://www.youtube.com/flyingblindllc, and LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/LarryLLewisJR

From: Shannon Pruitt [mailto:sdpruitt99@gmail.commailto:sdpruitt99@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 3:47 PM
To: Leah Gerlach
Cc: Larry L. Lewis, Jr.; Lisa Faret; AERNET Questions
Subject: Re: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays

If you're not married to Jaws, I would suggest using NVDA instead.

On Sep 19, 2016, at 3:42 PM, Leah Gerlach <GerlachL@Spectrios.orgmailto:GerlachL@Spectrios.org> wrote:
I agree with Larry.

Leah Gerlach, M.S.
Rehabilitation Counselor, and Access Technology Specialist
<image004.jpg>
at Deicke House
219 East Cole Avenue
Wheaton, IL 60187
P: 1-630-690-7115 ext. 122tel:1-630-690-7115%20ext.%20122
F: 1-630-690-9037tel:1-630-690-9037
www.spectrios.orghttp://www.spectrios.org/

Spread the Joy of Vision!  Please make a donation to help children and adults with permanent vision loss.  Call us or go to our website and click on Donate Now to make a donation.  Thank you for your support!

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Thank you.

From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Larry L. Lewis, Jr.
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:21 PM
To: 'Lisa Faret' <faretlisa@gmail.commailto:faretlisa@gmail.com>; 'AERNET Questions' <aernet@lists.aerbvi.orgmailto:aernet@lists.aerbvi.org>
Subject: Re: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays

Greetings,

I'm a big fan of the HP laptops with the built-in numeric keyboards-excellent for Jaws usage. <image005.jpg>http://www.ultrabookreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/hp-pavilion-15s.jpg and the Bluetooth connectivity on them are fantastic-they're a little heavier than most, and you'll need to remove some of the manufacturer garbage on them for a more optimal screenreading experience, but they're a solid option. Whatever you decide, even though Jaws has a laptop keyboard layout-I'm a big fan of teaching advanced Jaws concepts with the numpad.

<image006.png>
Warmest Regards,
Larry L. Lewis, Jr.
President and Founder
Flying Blind, LLC
<image007.jpg>
Office Phone: +1 (216) 381-8107tel:%2B1%20%28216%29%20381-8107
Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353tel:%2B1%20%28216%29%20502-3353
E-Mail: Larry.Lewis@Flying-Blind.commailto:larry.lewis@flying-blind.com
Visit Flying Blind on the Webhttp://www.flying-blind.com/
Shop for High Tech and Low Tech Products In The Flying Blind Product Storehttp://www.flying-blind.com/store.html
And Connect with Flying Blind on Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/flyingblindllc, YouTubehttp://www.youtube.com/flyingblindllc, and LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/LarryLLewisJR

From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Faret
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:58 PM
To: AERNET Questions
Subject: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays

Hi,

Does anyone have a suggestion for a lightweight laptop PC that works well with JAWS and connects easily via bluetooth to a braille display, (APH Refreshabraille 18)?

Thanks,
Lisa Faret

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Sitting here in a classroom situation where I train VI folks from age 14 to 90 or older, I hate when VR counselors/families... get laptops without even looking at them and expect them to be user friendly to these people. Laptops which use keys to make keys do multiple tasks and/or laptops which have no discernable number pads and or arrow keys irritate me. When the keys are absolutely flat and relatively small, that irritates me too. Whenever I get those laptops to work with, I encourage a person to get a full size keyboard to use especially when these people are new to blindness and/or keyboarding. These new bluetooth mobile keyboards that work with phones and tablets, could probably be an alternative that would work very well. I have a universal mobile keyboard that I like quite well when not using my Apex. I am going to pose a question which is not exactly related to the topic. I believe that desktops and possibly even laptops may become obsolete with the portable keyboards with or without tablets and phones which are just as accessible as computers and a lot more portable. Also, with baby boomers getting older and losing vision, I think people would much rather talk to something or do simple gestures than type. And that doesn't even take devices such as Amazon Echo and apps such as google voice and siri. More and more people are actually working with their phones and tablets to do work from home. What do you think this implies for teaching technology? I am wondering just how necessary it is to teach seniors how to type and use desktop/traditional computers. Marcie Brink-Chaney CVRT Detroit Receiving Hospital University Health Center Detroit Medical Center Phone: (313)745-4131 Email: mbrink-c@dmc.org<mailto:mbrink-c@dmc.org> ________________________________ From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Dr Denise Robinson Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 10:19 AM To: Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Cc: AERNET Questions Subject: Re: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays I totally agree with everything Larry said. On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Larry L. Lewis, Jr. <Larry.Lewis@flying-blind.com<mailto:Larry.Lewis@flying-blind.com>> wrote: For the record-I'm a huge NVDA fan-as long as the individual understands that it is "freeware", meaning "no technical support" in the traditional sense of the word, I say roll with NVDA as an alternative. It'd fantastic on the web, and is continually improving with Microsoft Office and Google Apps. [cid:307240019@21092016-1584] Warmest Regards, Larry L. Lewis, Jr. President and Founder Flying Blind, LLC [cid:307240019@21092016-158B] Office Phone: +1 (216) 381-8107<tel:%2B1%20%28216%29%20381-8107> Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353<tel:%2B1%20%28216%29%20502-3353> E-Mail: Larry.Lewis@Flying-Blind.com<mailto:larry.lewis@flying-blind.com> Visit Flying Blind on the Web<http://www.flying-blind.com/> Shop for High Tech and Low Tech Products In The Flying Blind Product Store<http://www.flying-blind.com/store.html> And Connect with Flying Blind on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/flyingblindllc>, YouTube<http://www.youtube.com/flyingblindllc>, and LinkedIn<http://www.linkedin.com/in/LarryLLewisJR> From: Shannon Pruitt [mailto:sdpruitt99@gmail.com<mailto:sdpruitt99@gmail.com>] Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 3:47 PM To: Leah Gerlach Cc: Larry L. Lewis, Jr.; Lisa Faret; AERNET Questions Subject: Re: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays If you're not married to Jaws, I would suggest using NVDA instead. On Sep 19, 2016, at 3:42 PM, Leah Gerlach <GerlachL@Spectrios.org<mailto:GerlachL@Spectrios.org>> wrote: I agree with Larry. Leah Gerlach, M.S. Rehabilitation Counselor, and Access Technology Specialist <image004.jpg> at Deicke House 219 East Cole Avenue Wheaton, IL 60187 P: 1-630-690-7115 ext. 122<tel:1-630-690-7115%20ext.%20122> F: 1-630-690-9037<tel:1-630-690-9037> www.spectrios.org<http://www.spectrios.org/> Spread the Joy of Vision! Please make a donation to help children and adults with permanent vision loss. Call us or go to our website and click on Donate Now to make a donation. Thank you for your support! The information contained in this electronic mail transmittal is protected by law and is intended only for the use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If the reader of this transmission is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that any disclosure, dissemination, distribution or duplication of its contents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmittal in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete the transmittal immediately. Thank you. From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Larry L. Lewis, Jr. Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:21 PM To: 'Lisa Faret' <faretlisa@gmail.com<mailto:faretlisa@gmail.com>>; 'AERNET Questions' <aernet@lists.aerbvi.org<mailto:aernet@lists.aerbvi.org>> Subject: Re: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays Greetings, I'm a big fan of the HP laptops with the built-in numeric keyboards-excellent for Jaws usage. <image005.jpg><http://www.ultrabookreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/hp-pavilion-15s.jpg> and the Bluetooth connectivity on them are fantastic-they're a little heavier than most, and you'll need to remove some of the manufacturer garbage on them for a more optimal screenreading experience, but they're a solid option. Whatever you decide, even though Jaws has a laptop keyboard layout-I'm a big fan of teaching advanced Jaws concepts with the numpad. <image006.png> Warmest Regards, Larry L. Lewis, Jr. President and Founder Flying Blind, LLC <image007.jpg> Office Phone: +1 (216) 381-8107<tel:%2B1%20%28216%29%20381-8107> Fax: +1 (216) 502-3353<tel:%2B1%20%28216%29%20502-3353> E-Mail: Larry.Lewis@Flying-Blind.com<mailto:larry.lewis@flying-blind.com> Visit Flying Blind on the Web<http://www.flying-blind.com/> Shop for High Tech and Low Tech Products In The Flying Blind Product Store<http://www.flying-blind.com/store.html> And Connect with Flying Blind on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/flyingblindllc>, YouTube<http://www.youtube.com/flyingblindllc>, and LinkedIn<http://www.linkedin.com/in/LarryLLewisJR> From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Faret Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 2:58 PM To: AERNET Questions Subject: [AERNet] Laptop Compatible with JAWS and Braille Displays Hi, Does anyone have a suggestion for a lightweight laptop PC that works well with JAWS and connects easily via bluetooth to a braille display, (APH Refreshabraille 18)? 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Michelle Antinarelli
Wed, Sep 21, 2016 9:00 PM

I agree with Marianne. As users we recommend what we know best. A good tech assessment looks at what is best for each student.

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On Sep 19, 2016, at 2:57 PM, Lisa Faret faretlisa@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

Does anyone have a suggestion for a lightweight laptop PC that works well with JAWS and connects easily via bluetooth to a braille display, (APH Refreshabraille 18)?

Thanks,
Lisa Faret

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I agree with Marianne. As users we recommend what we know best. A good tech assessment looks at what is best for each student. Sent from my iPhone Michelle J. Antinarelli, COMS Email mjant@charter.net Cell 508-498-1158 > On Sep 19, 2016, at 2:57 PM, Lisa Faret <faretlisa@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > Does anyone have a suggestion for a lightweight laptop PC that works well with JAWS and connects easily via bluetooth to a braille display, (APH Refreshabraille 18)? > > Thanks, > Lisa Faret > > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. > > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. > > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. > _______________________________________________ > AERNet mailing list > AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org