feel free to get all the details from: http://www.pediatriccvisociety.org/membership/ Christine Roman, PhD CVI Resources 25 Deer Spring Lane Allison Park, PA 15101 412-559-4431 croman@cviresources.com > On Apr 9, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Pat Fischer <pfischer@accessibility.net> wrote: > > What are the details for the Pediatric CVI Conference in Omaha this June? > > Patrick J. Fischer > Accessibility dot Net, Inc. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Christine > Roman > Sent: Sunday, April 9, 2017 12:09 PM > To: William Penrod <wpenrod@niu.edu> > Cc: AERNET <aernet@lists.aerbvi.org>; carol green <mommygreen69@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA > > I encourage folks to consider coming to The Pediatric CVI Conference in > Omaha this June. It is a great meeting that includes speakers from > medicine, education, OT, PT, Communication and of course parent > perspectives. This group was founded by Dr. Skip Legge-a neurological > ophthalmologist in Omaha. > > > Christine Roman, PhD > CVI Resources > 25 Deer Spring Lane > Allison Park, PA 15101 > 412-559-4431 > > > croman@cviresources.com > > > > >> On Apr 9, 2017, at 12:49 PM, Christine Roman <croman@cviresources.com> >> wrote: >> >> But…please keep in mind that the traditional LMA was written for >> individuals who in general are not expected to have on going improvements >> in functional vision. I have seen many vision professionals take a child >> down the braille road if they are in Phase I because of the results of the >> LMA. This can potentially result in missed opportunities to use vision in >> pre literacy and literacy activities. All of the students that I know who >> are competent print readers would have “qualified” as needing braille as a >> primary learning media earlier in their development. >> >> Many parents have approached me with this concerning issue. They are not >> anti braille, rather, parents are seeking the most appropriate way for >> their child to access literacy. I believe this is a serious issue that >> like so many related to services for students with CVI, is too often >> approached from an ocular visual impairment point of view. >> >> Finally, I must say that in my experience, there are many TVIs and O&M >> Specialists who are excellent at addressing the specialized needs of >> students with CVI. There are also many who are not. I have found the >> professionals from Deafblindness to be the first and most passionate voice >> for individuals with CVI. I have also seen highly skilled individuals in >> other fields including PT, PT, and Speech/language. I continue to be >> confused by the ways in which students with CVI must find support from >> fields outside vision but I am grateful for those who have stepped up. >> The Perkins CVI Range Endorsement was born out of a need to find CVI >> qualified professionals who can support students, families, and >> educational teams. >> >> Christine Roman, PhD >> CVI Resources & Pediatric View Program >> 25 Deer Spring Lane >> Allison Park, PA 15101 >> 412-559-4431 >> >> >> croman@cviresources.com >> >> >> >> >>> On Apr 9, 2017, at 11:46 AM, William Penrod <wpenrod@niu.edu> wrote: >>> >>> Agreed! Bill >>> >>> William M. Penrod, Ed.D., TVI, COMS >>> Associate Professor of Special Education Northern Illinois University >>> Department of SEED, CoE 232A Graham Hall DeKalb, IL 60115 >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Jill C. Brown [mailto:jillbrown1@mac.com] >>> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 7:55 PM >>> To: William Penrod <wpenrod@niu.edu> >>> Cc: Amy Hadley <amywyogirl@gmail.com>; Leah Gerlach >>> <GerlachL@Spectrios.org>; AERNET <aernet@lists.aerbvi.org>; carol >>> green <mommygreen69@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA >>> >>> LMAs can only be done with someone who has a teaching certification and >>> VI certification. >>> >>>> On Apr 7, 2017, at 12:17 PM, William Penrod <wpenrod@niu.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> No problem with that...indeed, you are highly qualified. But do OTs >>>> have knowledge in braille, braille readiness, and conducting LMAs? >>>> There is the only rub. Just my thoughts. Bill >>>> >>>> William M. Penrod, Ed.D., TVI, COMS >>>> Associate Professor of Special Education Northern Illinois >>>> University Department of SEED, CoE 232A Graham Hall DeKalb, IL 60115 >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Amy Hadley [mailto:amywyogirl@gmail.com] >>>> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 12:11 PM >>>> To: Leah Gerlach <GerlachL@Spectrios.org> >>>> Cc: William Penrod <wpenrod@niu.edu>; Rebecca Sheffield >>>> <rsheffield@afb.net>; aernet@lists.aerbvi.org; carol green >>>> <mommygreen69@gmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA >>>> >>>> Occupational Therapist have extensive training and a low vision >>>> speciality section for certification. I am both an OT and a COMS and am >>>> considered highly qualified personal via the Dept of Education to >>>> perform these assessments. OT's have been doing FVE in Neuro Rehab >>>> settings as part of our regular evaluation process since WWII. Just some >>>> added information. >>>> With that said, like any profession there are those that are good at >>>> their work and those that are not. >>>> Amy >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Apr 7, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Leah Gerlach <GerlachL@Spectrios.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I have followed this discussion with interest, and I know that it >>>>> applies to school age children. However both FVE and LME can sometimes >>>>> be used working with adults A Certified Vocational Evaluator , CVRT, >>>>> and Occupational Therapist (specializing in vision) often use versions >>>>> of these. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of >>>>> William Penrod >>>>> Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 11:56 AM >>>>> To: Amy Hadley <amywyogirl@gmail.com>; Rebecca Sheffield >>>>> <rsheffield@afb.net> >>>>> Cc: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org; carol green <mommygreen69@gmail.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA >>>>> >>>>> Personally, while the FVE aspect may be arguable, I do not think >>>>> that conducting a Learning Media Assessment (LMA) is within the >>>>> purview of a COMS unless he/she is also a TVI...I am not an >>>>> authority on OTs, but I would remain skeptical. Just my thoughts. Bill >>>>> William M. >>>>> Penrod, Ed.D., TVI, COMS Associate Professor of Special Education >>>>> Northern Illinois University Department of SEED, CoE 232A Graham >>>>> Hall DeKalb, IL 60115 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of >>>>> Amy Hadley >>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:30 PM >>>>> To: Rebecca Sheffield <rsheffield@afb.net> >>>>> Cc: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org; carol green <mommygreen69@gmail.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA >>>>> >>>>> In some states Occupational Therapist and COMS do them as well. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 6, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Rebecca Sheffield <rsheffield@afb.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Carol, >>>>>> >>>>>> This all depends on state law/regulations. There is no national >>>>>> definition of a "CTVI" or an "FVELMA." Our professional standards are >>>>>> for LMAs to be conducted by TVIs; I believe that O&M programs provide >>>>>> training for conducting FVEs. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Rebecca >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of >>>>>> carol green >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:53 PM >>>>>> To: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org >>>>>> Subject: [AERNet] FVELMA >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI? >>>>>> Thx, >>>>>> Carol >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and >>>>>> Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. >>>>>> >>>>>> To post a message to all the list members, send an email to >>>>>> aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. >>>>>> >>>>>> Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, go to >>>>>> http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and >>>>>> follow instructions to unsubscribe. 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Thank you Christine! Patrick J. Fischer 402-699-4357 > On Apr 9, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Christine Roman <croman@cviresources.com> wrote: > > feel free to get all the details from: > > > http://www.pediatriccvisociety.org/membership/ > > > Christine Roman, PhD > CVI Resources > 25 Deer Spring Lane > Allison Park, PA 15101 > 412-559-4431 > > > croman@cviresources.com > > > > >> On Apr 9, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Pat Fischer <pfischer@accessibility.net> wrote: >> >> What are the details for the Pediatric CVI Conference in Omaha this June? >> >> Patrick J. Fischer >> Accessibility dot Net, Inc. >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Christine >> Roman >> Sent: Sunday, April 9, 2017 12:09 PM >> To: William Penrod <wpenrod@niu.edu> >> Cc: AERNET <aernet@lists.aerbvi.org>; carol green <mommygreen69@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA >> >> I encourage folks to consider coming to The Pediatric CVI Conference in >> Omaha this June. It is a great meeting that includes speakers from >> medicine, education, OT, PT, Communication and of course parent >> perspectives. This group was founded by Dr. Skip Legge-a neurological >> ophthalmologist in Omaha. >> >> >> Christine Roman, PhD >> CVI Resources >> 25 Deer Spring Lane >> Allison Park, PA 15101 >> 412-559-4431 >> >> >> croman@cviresources.com >> >> >> >> >>> On Apr 9, 2017, at 12:49 PM, Christine Roman <croman@cviresources.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> But…please keep in mind that the traditional LMA was written for >>> individuals who in general are not expected to have on going improvements >>> in functional vision. I have seen many vision professionals take a child >>> down the braille road if they are in Phase I because of the results of the >>> LMA. This can potentially result in missed opportunities to use vision in >>> pre literacy and literacy activities. All of the students that I know who >>> are competent print readers would have “qualified” as needing braille as a >>> primary learning media earlier in their development. >>> >>> Many parents have approached me with this concerning issue. They are not >>> anti braille, rather, parents are seeking the most appropriate way for >>> their child to access literacy. I believe this is a serious issue that >>> like so many related to services for students with CVI, is too often >>> approached from an ocular visual impairment point of view. >>> >>> Finally, I must say that in my experience, there are many TVIs and O&M >>> Specialists who are excellent at addressing the specialized needs of >>> students with CVI. There are also many who are not. I have found the >>> professionals from Deafblindness to be the first and most passionate voice >>> for individuals with CVI. I have also seen highly skilled individuals in >>> other fields including PT, PT, and Speech/language. I continue to be >>> confused by the ways in which students with CVI must find support from >>> fields outside vision but I am grateful for those who have stepped up. >>> The Perkins CVI Range Endorsement was born out of a need to find CVI >>> qualified professionals who can support students, families, and >>> educational teams. >>> >>> Christine Roman, PhD >>> CVI Resources & Pediatric View Program >>> 25 Deer Spring Lane >>> Allison Park, PA 15101 >>> 412-559-4431 >>> >>> >>> croman@cviresources.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Apr 9, 2017, at 11:46 AM, William Penrod <wpenrod@niu.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> Agreed! Bill >>>> >>>> William M. Penrod, Ed.D., TVI, COMS >>>> Associate Professor of Special Education Northern Illinois University >>>> Department of SEED, CoE 232A Graham Hall DeKalb, IL 60115 >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Jill C. Brown [mailto:jillbrown1@mac.com] >>>> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 7:55 PM >>>> To: William Penrod <wpenrod@niu.edu> >>>> Cc: Amy Hadley <amywyogirl@gmail.com>; Leah Gerlach >>>> <GerlachL@Spectrios.org>; AERNET <aernet@lists.aerbvi.org>; carol >>>> green <mommygreen69@gmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA >>>> >>>> LMAs can only be done with someone who has a teaching certification and >>>> VI certification. >>>> >>>>> On Apr 7, 2017, at 12:17 PM, William Penrod <wpenrod@niu.edu> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> No problem with that...indeed, you are highly qualified. But do OTs >>>>> have knowledge in braille, braille readiness, and conducting LMAs? >>>>> There is the only rub. Just my thoughts. Bill >>>>> >>>>> William M. Penrod, Ed.D., TVI, COMS >>>>> Associate Professor of Special Education Northern Illinois >>>>> University Department of SEED, CoE 232A Graham Hall DeKalb, IL 60115 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Amy Hadley [mailto:amywyogirl@gmail.com] >>>>> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 12:11 PM >>>>> To: Leah Gerlach <GerlachL@Spectrios.org> >>>>> Cc: William Penrod <wpenrod@niu.edu>; Rebecca Sheffield >>>>> <rsheffield@afb.net>; aernet@lists.aerbvi.org; carol green >>>>> <mommygreen69@gmail.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA >>>>> >>>>> Occupational Therapist have extensive training and a low vision >>>>> speciality section for certification. I am both an OT and a COMS and am >>>>> considered highly qualified personal via the Dept of Education to >>>>> perform these assessments. OT's have been doing FVE in Neuro Rehab >>>>> settings as part of our regular evaluation process since WWII. Just some >>>>> added information. >>>>> With that said, like any profession there are those that are good at >>>>> their work and those that are not. >>>>> Amy >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 7, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Leah Gerlach <GerlachL@Spectrios.org> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I have followed this discussion with interest, and I know that it >>>>>> applies to school age children. However both FVE and LME can sometimes >>>>>> be used working with adults A Certified Vocational Evaluator , CVRT, >>>>>> and Occupational Therapist (specializing in vision) often use versions >>>>>> of these. >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of >>>>>> William Penrod >>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 11:56 AM >>>>>> To: Amy Hadley <amywyogirl@gmail.com>; Rebecca Sheffield >>>>>> <rsheffield@afb.net> >>>>>> Cc: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org; carol green <mommygreen69@gmail.com> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA >>>>>> >>>>>> Personally, while the FVE aspect may be arguable, I do not think >>>>>> that conducting a Learning Media Assessment (LMA) is within the >>>>>> purview of a COMS unless he/she is also a TVI...I am not an >>>>>> authority on OTs, but I would remain skeptical. Just my thoughts. Bill >>>>>> William M. >>>>>> Penrod, Ed.D., TVI, COMS Associate Professor of Special Education >>>>>> Northern Illinois University Department of SEED, CoE 232A Graham >>>>>> Hall DeKalb, IL 60115 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of >>>>>> Amy Hadley >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:30 PM >>>>>> To: Rebecca Sheffield <rsheffield@afb.net> >>>>>> Cc: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org; carol green <mommygreen69@gmail.com> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA >>>>>> >>>>>> In some states Occupational Therapist and COMS do them as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 6, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Rebecca Sheffield <rsheffield@afb.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Carol, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This all depends on state law/regulations. There is no national >>>>>>> definition of a "CTVI" or an "FVELMA." Our professional standards are >>>>>>> for LMAs to be conducted by TVIs; I believe that O&M programs provide >>>>>>> training for conducting FVEs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Rebecca >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of >>>>>>> carol green >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:53 PM >>>>>>> To: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org >>>>>>> Subject: [AERNet] FVELMA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI? >>>>>>> Thx, >>>>>>> Carol >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and >>>>>>> Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To post a message to all the list members, send an email to >>>>>>> aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, go to >>>>>>> http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and >>>>>>> follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access >>>>>>> the list archives. >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> AERNet mailing list >>>>>>> AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org >>>>>>> http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and >>>>>>> Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To post a message to all the list members, send an email to >>>>>>> aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, go to >>>>>>> http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and >>>>>>> follow instructions to unsubscribe. 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Hey Dr. Roman, thanks for contributing to this thread! Can you answer my question about the Range regarding the ".5" credit for resolution of light gazing - how do we explain that to educational teams? Also, I'm intrigued about the conference although it's the first I've heard of it. I've been in the biz for over 15 years and have not seen that conference advertised. I also found your advertisement of the conference interesting that all the related professions were highlighted but did not include TVI or O&M -- are there no blindness professionals presenting? Or, is the assumption they are the majority presenting? Kevin Kevin J. Hollinger COMS, M.A., M.Ed, NBCT FHSD Vision Program 636-851-6143 > On Apr 9, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Patrick J. Fischer <pfischer@accessibility.net> wrote: > > Thank you Christine! > > Patrick J. Fischer > 402-699-4357 > >> On Apr 9, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Christine Roman <croman@cviresources.com> wrote: >> >> feel free to get all the details from: >> >> >> http://www.pediatriccvisociety.org/membership/ >> >> >> Christine Roman, PhD >> CVI Resources >> 25 Deer Spring Lane >> Allison Park, PA 15101 >> 412-559-4431 >> >> >> croman@cviresources.com >> >> >> >> >>> On Apr 9, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Pat Fischer <pfischer@accessibility.net> wrote: >>> >>> What are the details for the Pediatric CVI Conference in Omaha this June? >>> >>> Patrick J. Fischer >>> Accessibility dot Net, Inc. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Christine >>> Roman >>> Sent: Sunday, April 9, 2017 12:09 PM >>> To: William Penrod <wpenrod@niu.edu> >>> Cc: AERNET <aernet@lists.aerbvi.org>; carol green <mommygreen69@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA >>> >>> I encourage folks to consider coming to The Pediatric CVI Conference in >>> Omaha this June. It is a great meeting that includes speakers from >>> medicine, education, OT, PT, Communication and of course parent >>> perspectives. This group was founded by Dr. Skip Legge-a neurological >>> ophthalmologist in Omaha. >>> >>> >>> Christine Roman, PhD >>> CVI Resources >>> 25 Deer Spring Lane >>> Allison Park, PA 15101 >>> 412-559-4431 >>> >>> >>> croman@cviresources.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Apr 9, 2017, at 12:49 PM, Christine Roman <croman@cviresources.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> But…please keep in mind that the traditional LMA was written for >>>> individuals who in general are not expected to have on going improvements >>>> in functional vision. I have seen many vision professionals take a child >>>> down the braille road if they are in Phase I because of the results of the >>>> LMA. This can potentially result in missed opportunities to use vision in >>>> pre literacy and literacy activities. All of the students that I know who >>>> are competent print readers would have “qualified” as needing braille as a >>>> primary learning media earlier in their development. >>>> >>>> Many parents have approached me with this concerning issue. They are not >>>> anti braille, rather, parents are seeking the most appropriate way for >>>> their child to access literacy. I believe this is a serious issue that >>>> like so many related to services for students with CVI, is too often >>>> approached from an ocular visual impairment point of view. >>>> >>>> Finally, I must say that in my experience, there are many TVIs and O&M >>>> Specialists who are excellent at addressing the specialized needs of >>>> students with CVI. There are also many who are not. I have found the >>>> professionals from Deafblindness to be the first and most passionate voice >>>> for individuals with CVI. I have also seen highly skilled individuals in >>>> other fields including PT, PT, and Speech/language. I continue to be >>>> confused by the ways in which students with CVI must find support from >>>> fields outside vision but I am grateful for those who have stepped up. >>>> The Perkins CVI Range Endorsement was born out of a need to find CVI >>>> qualified professionals who can support students, families, and >>>> educational teams. >>>> >>>> Christine Roman, PhD >>>> CVI Resources & Pediatric View Program >>>> 25 Deer Spring Lane >>>> Allison Park, PA 15101 >>>> 412-559-4431 >>>> >>>> >>>> croman@cviresources.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Apr 9, 2017, at 11:46 AM, William Penrod <wpenrod@niu.edu> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Agreed! Bill >>>>> >>>>> William M. Penrod, Ed.D., TVI, COMS >>>>> Associate Professor of Special Education Northern Illinois University >>>>> Department of SEED, CoE 232A Graham Hall DeKalb, IL 60115 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Jill C. Brown [mailto:jillbrown1@mac.com] >>>>> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 7:55 PM >>>>> To: William Penrod <wpenrod@niu.edu> >>>>> Cc: Amy Hadley <amywyogirl@gmail.com>; Leah Gerlach >>>>> <GerlachL@Spectrios.org>; AERNET <aernet@lists.aerbvi.org>; carol >>>>> green <mommygreen69@gmail.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA >>>>> >>>>> LMAs can only be done with someone who has a teaching certification and >>>>> VI certification. >>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 7, 2017, at 12:17 PM, William Penrod <wpenrod@niu.edu> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> No problem with that...indeed, you are highly qualified. But do OTs >>>>>> have knowledge in braille, braille readiness, and conducting LMAs? >>>>>> There is the only rub. Just my thoughts. Bill >>>>>> >>>>>> William M. Penrod, Ed.D., TVI, COMS >>>>>> Associate Professor of Special Education Northern Illinois >>>>>> University Department of SEED, CoE 232A Graham Hall DeKalb, IL 60115 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Amy Hadley [mailto:amywyogirl@gmail.com] >>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 12:11 PM >>>>>> To: Leah Gerlach <GerlachL@Spectrios.org> >>>>>> Cc: William Penrod <wpenrod@niu.edu>; Rebecca Sheffield >>>>>> <rsheffield@afb.net>; aernet@lists.aerbvi.org; carol green >>>>>> <mommygreen69@gmail.com> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA >>>>>> >>>>>> Occupational Therapist have extensive training and a low vision >>>>>> speciality section for certification. I am both an OT and a COMS and am >>>>>> considered highly qualified personal via the Dept of Education to >>>>>> perform these assessments. OT's have been doing FVE in Neuro Rehab >>>>>> settings as part of our regular evaluation process since WWII. Just some >>>>>> added information. >>>>>> With that said, like any profession there are those that are good at >>>>>> their work and those that are not. >>>>>> Amy >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 7, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Leah Gerlach <GerlachL@Spectrios.org> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have followed this discussion with interest, and I know that it >>>>>>> applies to school age children. However both FVE and LME can sometimes >>>>>>> be used working with adults A Certified Vocational Evaluator , CVRT, >>>>>>> and Occupational Therapist (specializing in vision) often use versions >>>>>>> of these. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of >>>>>>> William Penrod >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 11:56 AM >>>>>>> To: Amy Hadley <amywyogirl@gmail.com>; Rebecca Sheffield >>>>>>> <rsheffield@afb.net> >>>>>>> Cc: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org; carol green <mommygreen69@gmail.com> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Personally, while the FVE aspect may be arguable, I do not think >>>>>>> that conducting a Learning Media Assessment (LMA) is within the >>>>>>> purview of a COMS unless he/she is also a TVI...I am not an >>>>>>> authority on OTs, but I would remain skeptical. Just my thoughts. Bill >>>>>>> William M. >>>>>>> Penrod, Ed.D., TVI, COMS Associate Professor of Special Education >>>>>>> Northern Illinois University Department of SEED, CoE 232A Graham >>>>>>> Hall DeKalb, IL 60115 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of >>>>>>> Amy Hadley >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:30 PM >>>>>>> To: Rebecca Sheffield <rsheffield@afb.net> >>>>>>> Cc: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org; carol green <mommygreen69@gmail.com> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In some states Occupational Therapist and COMS do them as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 6, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Rebecca Sheffield <rsheffield@afb.net> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Carol, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This all depends on state law/regulations. There is no national >>>>>>>> definition of a "CTVI" or an "FVELMA." Our professional standards are >>>>>>>> for LMAs to be conducted by TVIs; I believe that O&M programs provide >>>>>>>> training for conducting FVEs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Rebecca >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>> carol green >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:53 PM >>>>>>>> To: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org >>>>>>>> Subject: [AERNet] FVELMA >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI? >>>>>>>> Thx, >>>>>>>> Carol >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and >>>>>>>> Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To post a message to all the list members, send an email to >>>>>>>> aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, go to >>>>>>>> http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and >>>>>>>> follow instructions to unsubscribe. 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The Pediatric CVI Conference is heavily attended by TVIs and O&Ms plus folks across other professions. Families also play a high role-it is a unique and fairly new (6th conference this year) meeting but truly one of my favorites. A score of .5 in any of the characteristics has a specific meaning- for light it usually means that the child does not defend to bright light, that the addition of backlit materials provides best access…the details are expanded from the 2007 version of my book. The revision is coming out (AFB) soon and a follow up book of advanced principles to follow. Thanks for your questions. Christine Roman, PhD CVI Resources 25 Deer Spring Lane Allison Park, PA 15101 412-559-4431 croman@cviresources.com > On Apr 9, 2017, at 4:32 PM, HOLLINGER, KEVIN <Kevin.Hollinger@fhsdschools.org> wrote: > > Hey Dr. Roman, thanks for contributing to this thread! Can you answer my question about the Range regarding the ".5" credit for resolution of light gazing - how do we explain that to educational teams? Also, I'm intrigued about the conference although it's the first I've heard of it. I've been in the biz for over 15 years and have not seen that conference advertised. I also found your advertisement of the conference interesting that all the related professions were highlighted but did not include TVI or O&M -- are there no blindness professionals presenting? Or, is the assumption they are the majority presenting? > Kevin > > > > Kevin J. Hollinger > COMS, M.A., M.Ed, NBCT > FHSD Vision Program > 636-851-6143 > > >> On Apr 9, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Patrick J. Fischer <pfischer@accessibility.net> wrote: >> >> Thank you Christine! >> >> Patrick J. Fischer >> 402-699-4357 >> >>> On Apr 9, 2017, at 12:29 PM, Christine Roman <croman@cviresources.com> wrote: >>> >>> feel free to get all the details from: >>> >>> >>> http://www.pediatriccvisociety.org/membership/ >>> >>> >>> Christine Roman, PhD >>> CVI Resources >>> 25 Deer Spring Lane >>> Allison Park, PA 15101 >>> 412-559-4431 >>> >>> >>> croman@cviresources.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Apr 9, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Pat Fischer <pfischer@accessibility.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> What are the details for the Pediatric CVI Conference in Omaha this June? >>>> >>>> Patrick J. Fischer >>>> Accessibility dot Net, Inc. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Christine >>>> Roman >>>> Sent: Sunday, April 9, 2017 12:09 PM >>>> To: William Penrod <wpenrod@niu.edu> >>>> Cc: AERNET <aernet@lists.aerbvi.org>; carol green <mommygreen69@gmail.com> >>>> Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA >>>> >>>> I encourage folks to consider coming to The Pediatric CVI Conference in >>>> Omaha this June. It is a great meeting that includes speakers from >>>> medicine, education, OT, PT, Communication and of course parent >>>> perspectives. This group was founded by Dr. Skip Legge-a neurological >>>> ophthalmologist in Omaha. >>>> >>>> >>>> Christine Roman, PhD >>>> CVI Resources >>>> 25 Deer Spring Lane >>>> Allison Park, PA 15101 >>>> 412-559-4431 >>>> >>>> >>>> croman@cviresources.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Apr 9, 2017, at 12:49 PM, Christine Roman <croman@cviresources.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> But…please keep in mind that the traditional LMA was written for >>>>> individuals who in general are not expected to have on going improvements >>>>> in functional vision. I have seen many vision professionals take a child >>>>> down the braille road if they are in Phase I because of the results of the >>>>> LMA. This can potentially result in missed opportunities to use vision in >>>>> pre literacy and literacy activities. All of the students that I know who >>>>> are competent print readers would have “qualified” as needing braille as a >>>>> primary learning media earlier in their development. >>>>> >>>>> Many parents have approached me with this concerning issue. They are not >>>>> anti braille, rather, parents are seeking the most appropriate way for >>>>> their child to access literacy. I believe this is a serious issue that >>>>> like so many related to services for students with CVI, is too often >>>>> approached from an ocular visual impairment point of view. >>>>> >>>>> Finally, I must say that in my experience, there are many TVIs and O&M >>>>> Specialists who are excellent at addressing the specialized needs of >>>>> students with CVI. There are also many who are not. I have found the >>>>> professionals from Deafblindness to be the first and most passionate voice >>>>> for individuals with CVI. I have also seen highly skilled individuals in >>>>> other fields including PT, PT, and Speech/language. I continue to be >>>>> confused by the ways in which students with CVI must find support from >>>>> fields outside vision but I am grateful for those who have stepped up. >>>>> The Perkins CVI Range Endorsement was born out of a need to find CVI >>>>> qualified professionals who can support students, families, and >>>>> educational teams. >>>>> >>>>> Christine Roman, PhD >>>>> CVI Resources & Pediatric View Program >>>>> 25 Deer Spring Lane >>>>> Allison Park, PA 15101 >>>>> 412-559-4431 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> croman@cviresources.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Apr 9, 2017, at 11:46 AM, William Penrod <wpenrod@niu.edu> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Agreed! Bill >>>>>> >>>>>> William M. Penrod, Ed.D., TVI, COMS >>>>>> Associate Professor of Special Education Northern Illinois University >>>>>> Department of SEED, CoE 232A Graham Hall DeKalb, IL 60115 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Jill C. Brown [mailto:jillbrown1@mac.com] >>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 7:55 PM >>>>>> To: William Penrod <wpenrod@niu.edu> >>>>>> Cc: Amy Hadley <amywyogirl@gmail.com>; Leah Gerlach >>>>>> <GerlachL@Spectrios.org>; AERNET <aernet@lists.aerbvi.org>; carol >>>>>> green <mommygreen69@gmail.com> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA >>>>>> >>>>>> LMAs can only be done with someone who has a teaching certification and >>>>>> VI certification. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 7, 2017, at 12:17 PM, William Penrod <wpenrod@niu.edu> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No problem with that...indeed, you are highly qualified. But do OTs >>>>>>> have knowledge in braille, braille readiness, and conducting LMAs? >>>>>>> There is the only rub. Just my thoughts. Bill >>>>>>> >>>>>>> William M. Penrod, Ed.D., TVI, COMS >>>>>>> Associate Professor of Special Education Northern Illinois >>>>>>> University Department of SEED, CoE 232A Graham Hall DeKalb, IL 60115 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Amy Hadley [mailto:amywyogirl@gmail.com] >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2017 12:11 PM >>>>>>> To: Leah Gerlach <GerlachL@Spectrios.org> >>>>>>> Cc: William Penrod <wpenrod@niu.edu>; Rebecca Sheffield >>>>>>> <rsheffield@afb.net>; aernet@lists.aerbvi.org; carol green >>>>>>> <mommygreen69@gmail.com> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Occupational Therapist have extensive training and a low vision >>>>>>> speciality section for certification. I am both an OT and a COMS and am >>>>>>> considered highly qualified personal via the Dept of Education to >>>>>>> perform these assessments. OT's have been doing FVE in Neuro Rehab >>>>>>> settings as part of our regular evaluation process since WWII. Just some >>>>>>> added information. >>>>>>> With that said, like any profession there are those that are good at >>>>>>> their work and those that are not. >>>>>>> Amy >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Apr 7, 2017, at 11:02 AM, Leah Gerlach <GerlachL@Spectrios.org> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have followed this discussion with interest, and I know that it >>>>>>>> applies to school age children. However both FVE and LME can sometimes >>>>>>>> be used working with adults A Certified Vocational Evaluator , CVRT, >>>>>>>> and Occupational Therapist (specializing in vision) often use versions >>>>>>>> of these. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>> William Penrod >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 11:56 AM >>>>>>>> To: Amy Hadley <amywyogirl@gmail.com>; Rebecca Sheffield >>>>>>>> <rsheffield@afb.net> >>>>>>>> Cc: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org; carol green <mommygreen69@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Personally, while the FVE aspect may be arguable, I do not think >>>>>>>> that conducting a Learning Media Assessment (LMA) is within the >>>>>>>> purview of a COMS unless he/she is also a TVI...I am not an >>>>>>>> authority on OTs, but I would remain skeptical. Just my thoughts. Bill >>>>>>>> William M. >>>>>>>> Penrod, Ed.D., TVI, COMS Associate Professor of Special Education >>>>>>>> Northern Illinois University Department of SEED, CoE 232A Graham >>>>>>>> Hall DeKalb, IL 60115 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>> Amy Hadley >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:30 PM >>>>>>>> To: Rebecca Sheffield <rsheffield@afb.net> >>>>>>>> Cc: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org; carol green <mommygreen69@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In some states Occupational Therapist and COMS do them as well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 6, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Rebecca Sheffield <rsheffield@afb.net> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Carol, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This all depends on state law/regulations. There is no national >>>>>>>>> definition of a "CTVI" or an "FVELMA." Our professional standards are >>>>>>>>> for LMAs to be conducted by TVIs; I believe that O&M programs provide >>>>>>>>> training for conducting FVEs. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Rebecca >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>>> carol green >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:53 PM >>>>>>>>> To: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org >>>>>>>>> Subject: [AERNet] FVELMA >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI? >>>>>>>>> Thx, >>>>>>>>> Carol >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and >>>>>>>>> Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To post a message to all the list members, send an email to >>>>>>>>> aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, go to >>>>>>>>> http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and >>>>>>>>> follow instructions to unsubscribe. 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