Which states are teaching UEB math? I only know of 2 so curious if anyone else is? Most know BANA states to stick with Nemeth so always wonder how the UEB math goes over when suggested for a student from the district. Thanks *DrDenise M Robinson* Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. CEO, TechVision Teaching Technology that gives you Vision [image: TechVision Logo] 423-573-6413 www.yourtechvision.com

In Indiana this is a case conference committee decision. If the team decides UEB with UEB math is best for the student that is what is taught and used. If the team decides UEB with Nemeth is best that is what they go with. We can order books and state testing materials in either code for students. On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 3:50 PM Dr Denise Robinson <yourtechvision@gmail.com> wrote: > Which states are teaching UEB math? I only know of 2 so curious if anyone > else is? Most know BANA states to stick with Nemeth so always wonder how > the UEB math goes over when suggested for a student from the district. > Thanks > *DrDenise M Robinson* > > Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. > CEO, TechVision > > Teaching Technology that gives you Vision > > [image: TechVision Logo] > > 423-573-6413 > www.yourtechvision.com > > > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and > Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. > > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to > aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. > > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and > follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the > list archives. > _______________________________________________ > AERNet mailing list > AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org > -- Katie Crawford Teacher/Consultant for Students who are Blind or Low Vision Orientation and Mobility Specialist

Is everyone aware that the PSAT and SAT exams are in Nemeth? Sent from Denise's iPhone 😇 > On Oct 27, 2018, at 7:57 PM, Katie Crawford <kcrawford@cpcsc.k12.in.us> wrote: > > In Indiana this is a case conference committee decision. If the team decides UEB with UEB math is best for the student that is what is taught and used. If the team decides UEB with Nemeth is best that is what they go with. We can order books and state testing materials in either code for students. > >> On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 3:50 PM Dr Denise Robinson <yourtechvision@gmail.com> wrote: >> Which states are teaching UEB math? I only know of 2 so curious if anyone else is? Most know BANA states to stick with Nemeth so always wonder how the UEB math goes over when suggested for a student from the district. >> Thanks >> DrDenise M Robinson >> >> Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. >> CEO, TechVision >> >> Teaching Technology that gives you Vision >> >> >> >> 423-573-6413 >> www.yourtechvision.com >> >> >> You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. >> >> To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. >> >> Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. >> _______________________________________________ >> AERNet mailing list >> AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org >> http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org > -- > Katie Crawford > Teacher/Consultant for Students who are Blind or Low Vision > Orientation and Mobility Specialist

Yes, many of us around the country are aware of the College Board’s policy and have been active in advocacy concerning this restrictive issue. AER’s Task Force on the Implementation of UEB has reached out multiple times to the College Board, and specifically to Jill Green, College Board’s Senior Director of their Services for Students with Disabilities (SSD). The AER Task Force also authored a lengthy, formal letter which was approved by the AER Board of Directors and sent it to the College Board. I can provide the text of that letter if anyone is interested. My last actual response from Ms. Green was in late July when I called her to determine exactly what I should report in my comments to the AER Business Meeting at the AER Conference in Reno. She again said that they are producing their tests only in Nemeth with UEB, but she did vaguely indicate that they will be revisiting their policy in the future. That is what I reported in the AER business meeting as well as to participants of the roundtable on UEB that Frances Mary D'Andrea and I conducted at the conference. Jill Green can be reached directly at 212-713-8070 <tel:212-713-8070>. The only email address she provides is ssd@collegeboard.org <mailto:ssd@collegeboard.org>, which is merely a general address for all communications to SSD. We strongly encourage any professional or parent or student who is impacted by this to contact the College Board and explain the issues their policy causes. If anyone reaches the College Board, please share your experience and any news you learn. Thanks, Mary Nelle Mary Nelle McLennan, MA AER Representative to the Braille Authority of North America Chair, BANA Publications Committee 1536 Broad Hill Drive Pittsburgh, PA 15237 Land Line: 412-367-9085 Cell: 412-559-7782 On Oct 29, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Dr Denise Robinson <yourtechvision@gmail.com> wrote: Is everyone aware that the PSAT and SAT exams are in Nemeth? Sent from Denise's iPhone 😇 On Oct 27, 2018, at 7:57 PM, Katie Crawford <kcrawford@cpcsc.k12.in.us <mailto:kcrawford@cpcsc.k12.in.us>> wrote: > In Indiana this is a case conference committee decision. If the team decides UEB with UEB math is best for the student that is what is taught and used. If the team decides UEB with Nemeth is best that is what they go with. We can order books and state testing materials in either code for students. > > On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 3:50 PM Dr Denise Robinson <yourtechvision@gmail.com <mailto:yourtechvision@gmail.com>> wrote: > Which states are teaching UEB math? I only know of 2 so curious if anyone else is? Most know BANA states to stick with Nemeth so always wonder how the UEB math goes over when suggested for a student from the district. > Thanks > DrDenise M Robinson > > Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. > CEO, TechVision > > Teaching Technology that gives you Vision > > > > 423-573-6413 > www.yourtechvision.com <http://www.yourtechvision.com/> > > > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. > > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org <mailto:aernet@lists.aerbvi.org>. > > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org <mailto:aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org> > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org <http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org> and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. > _______________________________________________ > AERNet mailing list > AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org <mailto:AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org> > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org <http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org> > -- > Katie Crawford > Teacher/Consultant for Students who are Blind or Low Vision > Orientation and Mobility Specialist You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. _______________________________________________ AERNet mailing list AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org

Our testing coordinator contacted me recently with questions from a survey she received from College Board that appear to be related to this. Note College Board also produces all of the AP exams. It included the following questions: When it comes to teaching math to students with vision impairment who require braille, which of the following systems does your school currently use at each grade level? (select one answer per row) *Nemeth code* *UEB math* *both* My Response: Interesting how this question is worded. I was actually on the state decision committee for this decision making process when we transitioned to the UEB code. Indiana's statewide policy is the decision of braille code for mathematics (UEB or Nemeth) is a case conference committee decision for each student. It is not determined by grade level, but based student need and what is best for the student. They also asked what assistive technology our students with visual impairments were using. That is a very broad question so I listed everything I could think of that I have had students use in recent years. Unfortunately, this survey was sent to testing coordinators (often Guidance Counselors and Assistant Principals) who usually have no idea what our students use. Hopefully, other coordinators reached out to the TVIs in their districts as well for help in answering these questions! Mary Nelle, thank you for sharing that contact information. I'll be reaching out to their office and will share that information on our statewide listserve for TVIs. On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 9:49 AM Mary Nelle McLennan < mary.nelle@earthlink.net> wrote: > Yes, many of us around the country are aware of the College Board’s policy > and have been active in advocacy concerning this restrictive issue. > > AER’s Task Force on the Implementation of UEB has reached out multiple > times to the College Board, and specifically to Jill Green, College Board’s > Senior Director of their Services for Students with Disabilities (SSD). > The AER Task Force also authored a lengthy, formal letter which was > approved by the AER Board of Directors and sent it to the College Board. I > can provide the text of that letter if anyone is interested. > > My last actual response from Ms. Green was in late July when I called her > to determine exactly what I should report in my comments to the > AER Business Meeting at the AER Conference in Reno. She again said that > they are producing their tests only in Nemeth with UEB, but she > did vaguely indicate that they will be revisiting their policy in the > future. That is what I reported in the AER business meeting as well as > to participants of the roundtable on UEB that Frances Mary D'Andrea and I > conducted at the conference. > > Jill Green can be reached directly at 212-713-8070. The only email > address she provides is ssd@collegeboard.org, which is merely a general > address for all communications to SSD. > > We strongly encourage any professional or parent or student who is > impacted by this to contact the College Board and explain the issues their > policy causes. > > If anyone reaches the College Board, please share your experience and any > news you learn. > > Thanks, > Mary Nelle > > *Mary Nelle McLennan, MA* > AER Representative to the Braille Authority of North America > Chair, BANA Publications Committee > 1536 Broad Hill Drive > <https://maps.google.com/?q=1536+Broad+Hill+Drive+Pittsburgh,+PA+15237&entry=gmail&source=g> > Pittsburgh, PA 15237 > <https://maps.google.com/?q=1536+Broad+Hill+Drive+Pittsburgh,+PA+15237&entry=gmail&source=g> > Land Line: 412-367-9085 > Cell: 412-559-7782 > > On Oct 29, 2018, at 9:25 AM, Dr Denise Robinson <yourtechvision@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Is everyone aware that the PSAT and SAT exams are in Nemeth? > > Sent from Denise's iPhone 😇 > > On Oct 27, 2018, at 7:57 PM, Katie Crawford <kcrawford@cpcsc.k12.in.us> > wrote: > > In Indiana this is a case conference committee decision. If the team > decides UEB with UEB math is best for the student that is what is taught > and used. If the team decides UEB with Nemeth is best that is what they go > with. We can order books and state testing materials in either code for > students. > > On Sat, Oct 27, 2018 at 3:50 PM Dr Denise Robinson < > yourtechvision@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Which states are teaching UEB math? I only know of 2 so curious if anyone >> else is? Most know BANA states to stick with Nemeth so always wonder how >> the UEB math goes over when suggested for a student from the district. >> Thanks >> *DrDenise M Robinson* >> >> Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D. >> CEO, TechVision >> >> Teaching Technology that gives you Vision >> >> [image: TechVision Logo] >> >> 423-573-6413 >> www.yourtechvision.com >> >> >> You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and >> Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. >> >> To post a message to all the list members, send an email to >> aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. >> >> Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, go to >> http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and >> follow instructions to unsubscribe. 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