Valued colleagues:

Can anyone send me a picture, or direct me to a website with a picture that
would simulate how a person with SOD would see?

Doing a consultation for an eval with young child suspected of having
autism, and think that it would help the ADOS examiner to see what that
visual field would look like.

Thanks very much for any response.

Carol Evans

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Can anyone send me a picture, or direct me to a website with a picture that would simulate how a person with SOD would see?
 
Doing a consultation for an eval with young child suspected of having autism, and think that it would help the ADOS examiner to see what that visual field would look like.
 
Thanks very much for any response.
 Carol Evans
 

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Andrea ... thank you so much!  That link has much to offer.  It might come
in very handy in this situation.

I agree that all simulations are an approximation.  No two people, even
with the same diagnosis and same acuity, see exactly alike.

Many years ago when I was gathering simulations for a presentation, I came
across one of nystagmus.  It was in motion, showing what print would look
like to a person with nystagmus.  I lost it, and despite searching for it
many times, I never found it again.

I'll mail a pound of Cummings chocolate (best made in Utah) to anyone who
can find a motion simulation of nystagmus for me!

Thanks ... Carol Evans

From: Andrea Story [email protected]
To: Carol Evans [email protected]
Cc: "[email protected]" [email protected]; New vision
list [email protected]; Siemsen OD Dennis [email protected]
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: [AERNet] Simulation of vision with septo-optic dysplasia

I've never seen a pictorial simulation of SOD/ONH.  I think it varies in
expression so much from person to person that it's hard to generalize
SOD/ONH like the conditions that are regularly seen in those simulations
(macular degeneration, diabetic retinopathy, glaucoma, cataracts, etc.).

Most of the eye conditions that are simulated are those that are late
onset - which are ones that an adult can clearly articulate what their
vision is like and what it is missing from before.

You might be able to do a informal field test with the child and make a
simulator with goggles (if visual field is the only thing you want to
simulate).  It would be an approximation but aren't all simulations an
approximation?

So many people with SOD/ONH have CVI like characteristics.  I haven't seen
good simulations of those except maybe illusions like this:

http://www.michaelbach.de/ot/cog_dalmatian/index.html

I for one would like to see a simulation of SOD/ONH if there is one out
there - but I don't think there is one.

-Andrea

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Carol Evans [email protected]wrote:

Valued colleagues:

Can anyone send me a picture, or direct me to a website with a picture
that would simulate how a person with SOD would see?

Doing a consultation for an eval with young child suspected of having
autism, and think that it would help the ADOS examiner to see what that
visual field would look like.

Thanks very much for any response.

Carol Evans

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Andrea,

Very interesting resource ... thank you!  Maybe I could manage to do that
thing with the transparency on the overhead projector.

It was video, but I don't think I knew about youtube then.  It was close
to 13 years ago.

Thanks ... Carol

From: Andrea Story [email protected]
To: Carol Evans [email protected]
Cc: "[email protected]" [email protected]; New vision
list [email protected]; Siemsen OD Dennis [email protected]
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 12:54 AM
Subject: Re: [AERNet] Simulation of vision with septo-optic dysplasia
AND NYSTAGMUS

The reading with nystagmus simulation sounds very interesting.  Now I am
intrigued.

Was it something like a you tube video?

Here's something I found:

http://books.google.com/books?id=ypXYF-UeR_cC&pg=PA168&lpg=PA168&dq=simulation+of+reading+print+with+nystagmus&source=bl&ots=Zj_sZO47c3&sig=cc5WuWCRfnIdNL9l5J9KkRKR2U4&hl=en&ei=oEOuTpqtGuSFiALh5q3wCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false

It's from  Low vision: research and new developments in rehabilitation By
Aart C. Kooijman.  It's a
description of how to use an overhead projector to simulate reading with
nystagmus.

-Andrea

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Carol Evans [email protected]wrote:

Andrea ... thank you so much!  That link has much to offer.  It might come
in very handy in this situation.

I agree that all simulations are an approximation.  No two people, even
with the same diagnosis and same acuity, see exactly alike.

Many years ago when I was gathering simulations for a presentation, I came
across one of nystagmus.  It was in motion, showing what print would look
like to a person with nystagmus.  I lost it, and despite searching for it
many times, I never found it again.

I'll mail a pound of Cummings chocolate (best made in Utah) to anyone who
can find a motion simulation of nystagmus for me!

Thanks ... Carol Evans

From: Andrea Story [email protected]
To: Carol Evans [email protected]
Cc: "[email protected]" [email protected]; New vision
list [email protected]; Siemsen OD Dennis [email protected]
Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: [AERNet] Simulation of vision with septo-optic dysplasia

I've never seen a pictorial simulation of SOD/ONH.  I think it varies in
expression so much from person to person that it's hard to generalize
SOD/ONH like the conditions that are regularly seen in those simulations
(macular degeneration, diabetic retinopathy, glaucoma, cataracts, etc.).

Most of the eye conditions that are simulated are those that are late
onset - which are ones that an adult can clearly articulate what their
vision is like and what it is missing from before.

You might be able to do a informal field test with the child and make a
simulator with goggles (if visual field is the only thing you want to
simulate).  It would be an approximation but aren't all simulations an
approximation?

So many people with SOD/ONH have CVI like characteristics.  I haven't seen
good simulations of those except maybe illusions like this:

http://www.michaelbach.de/ot/cog_dalmatian/index.html

I for one would like to see a simulation of SOD/ONH if there is one out
there - but I don't think there is one.

-Andrea

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Carol Evans [email protected]wrote:

Valued colleagues:

Can anyone send me a picture, or direct me to a website with a picture
that would simulate how a person with SOD would see?

Doing a consultation for an eval with young child suspected of having
autism, and think that it would help the ADOS examiner to see what that
visual field would look like.

Thanks very much for any response.

Carol Evans

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