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carol green
Thu, Apr 6, 2017 6:52 PM

Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI?
Thx,
Carol
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Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI? Thx, Carol Sent from my iPhone
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Rebecca Sheffield
Thu, Apr 6, 2017 6:58 PM

Hi Carol,

This all depends on state law/regulations. There is no national definition of a "CTVI" or an "FVELMA." Our professional standards are for LMAs to be conducted by TVIs; I believe that O&M programs provide training for conducting FVEs.

Thanks,
Rebecca

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Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI?
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Hi Carol, This all depends on state law/regulations. There is no national definition of a "CTVI" or an "FVELMA." Our professional standards are for LMAs to be conducted by TVIs; I believe that O&M programs provide training for conducting FVEs. Thanks, Rebecca -----Original Message----- From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of carol green Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:53 PM To: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org Subject: [AERNet] FVELMA Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI? Thx, Carol Sent from my iPhone You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. _______________________________________________ AERNet mailing list AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org
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Amy Hadley
Thu, Apr 6, 2017 7:30 PM

In some states Occupational Therapist and COMS do them as well.

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On Apr 6, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Rebecca Sheffield rsheffield@afb.net wrote:

Hi Carol,

This all depends on state law/regulations. There is no national definition of a "CTVI" or an "FVELMA." Our professional standards are for LMAs to be conducted by TVIs; I believe that O&M programs provide training for conducting FVEs.

Thanks,
Rebecca

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Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI?
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In some states Occupational Therapist and COMS do them as well. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 6, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Rebecca Sheffield <rsheffield@afb.net> wrote: > > Hi Carol, > > This all depends on state law/regulations. There is no national definition of a "CTVI" or an "FVELMA." Our professional standards are for LMAs to be conducted by TVIs; I believe that O&M programs provide training for conducting FVEs. > > Thanks, > Rebecca > > -----Original Message----- > From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of carol green > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:53 PM > To: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org > Subject: [AERNet] FVELMA > > > > > Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI? > Thx, > Carol > Sent from my iPhone > > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. > > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. > > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. > _______________________________________________ > AERNet mailing list > AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org > > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. > > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. > > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. > _______________________________________________ > AERNet mailing list > AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org
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HOLLINGER, KEVIN
Thu, Apr 6, 2017 7:33 PM

Regarding the definition.... depending on what you google is what you may find -- the challenge is that the "name" for a TVI is called many things (CTVI, TVI, VT, TCVI, and so on) - seems that multiple university graduates identify themselves by a host of acronyms -- Wouldn't it be great and nice to have a unified title to show solidarity and larger numbers? A colleague of mine asked me why some TVIs use TCVI because, "who else do they teach?"

Personally, I dislike "certified" in any acronym for a TVI because I know of no other disciplines that include it - I don't know any Math teachers (or Teachers of Math) that say Certified Math Teacher or Certified Physical Science Teacher or Teacher of Children with Autism -- any teacher in Early Childhood or K-12 must have a state certification (or license) otherwise they could not teach.

Same goes for the acronym describing an FVA or FVE and most TVIs I know separate the assessments/evaluations between functional, learning, and mobility. By the way, is it a "learning media assessment" or a "literacy media assessment?" :)

my thoughts....

Kevin


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Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA

Hi Carol,

This all depends on state law/regulations. There is no national definition of a "CTVI" or an "FVELMA." Our professional standards are for LMAs to be conducted by TVIs; I believe that O&M programs provide training for conducting FVEs.

Thanks,
Rebecca

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Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI?
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Regarding the definition.... depending on what you google is what you may find -- the challenge is that the "name" for a TVI is called many things (CTVI, TVI, VT, TCVI, and so on) - seems that multiple university graduates identify themselves by a host of acronyms -- Wouldn't it be great and nice to have a unified title to show solidarity and larger numbers? A colleague of mine asked me why some TVIs use TCVI because, "who else do they teach?" Personally, I dislike "certified" in any acronym for a TVI because I know of no other disciplines that include it - I don't know any Math teachers (or Teachers of Math) that say Certified Math Teacher or Certified Physical Science Teacher or Teacher of Children with Autism -- any teacher in Early Childhood or K-12 must have a state certification (or license) otherwise they could not teach. Same goes for the acronym describing an FVA or FVE and most TVIs I know separate the assessments/evaluations between functional, learning, and mobility. By the way, is it a "learning media assessment" or a "literacy media assessment?" :) my thoughts.... Kevin ________________________________ From: AERNet <aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org> on behalf of Rebecca Sheffield <rsheffield@afb.net> Sent: Thursday, April 6, 2017 1:58:51 PM To: carol green; aernet@lists.aerbvi.org Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA Hi Carol, This all depends on state law/regulations. There is no national definition of a "CTVI" or an "FVELMA." Our professional standards are for LMAs to be conducted by TVIs; I believe that O&M programs provide training for conducting FVEs. Thanks, Rebecca -----Original Message----- From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of carol green Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:53 PM To: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org Subject: [AERNet] FVELMA Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI? Thx, Carol Sent from my iPhone You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. _______________________________________________ AERNet mailing list AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. _______________________________________________ AERNet mailing list AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org This e-mail transmission from the Francis Howell School District including any accompanying data or files is confidential and is intended only for the use of the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, an addressee, or the person responsible for delivering this to an addressee, you are hereby notified that reading, using, copying, or distributing any part of this message is strictly prohibited. If you receive this message in error, or are not the named recipient(s), please notify the sender at the email address above, delete this email from your computer, and destroy any copies in any form immediately. Improper retention of this e-mail and any attachment(s) to this e-mail could subject you to legal action under pertinent federal and state statutes, and result in civil and criminal penalties.
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Sean Tikkun
Thu, Apr 6, 2017 11:02 PM

It is well within the training and education of people certified with CATIS, at least in the scope of our program and training at NIU.

-Sean Tikkun

On 4/6/17, 2:30 PM, "AERNet on behalf of Amy Hadley" <aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org on behalf of amywyogirl@gmail.com> wrote:

In some states Occupational Therapist and COMS do them as well. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 6, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Rebecca Sheffield rsheffield@afb.net wrote:

Hi Carol,

This all depends on state law/regulations. There is no national definition of a "CTVI" or an "FVELMA." Our professional standards are for LMAs to be conducted by TVIs; I believe that O&M programs provide training for conducting FVEs.

Thanks,
Rebecca

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Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI?
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Carol
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It is well within the training and education of people certified with CATIS, at least in the scope of our program and training at NIU. -Sean Tikkun On 4/6/17, 2:30 PM, "AERNet on behalf of Amy Hadley" <aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org on behalf of amywyogirl@gmail.com> wrote: In some states Occupational Therapist and COMS do them as well. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 6, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Rebecca Sheffield <rsheffield@afb.net> wrote: > > Hi Carol, > > This all depends on state law/regulations. There is no national definition of a "CTVI" or an "FVELMA." Our professional standards are for LMAs to be conducted by TVIs; I believe that O&M programs provide training for conducting FVEs. > > Thanks, > Rebecca > > -----Original Message----- > From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of carol green > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:53 PM > To: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org > Subject: [AERNet] FVELMA > > > > > Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI? > Thx, > Carol > Sent from my iPhone > > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. > > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. > > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. > _______________________________________________ > AERNet mailing list > AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org > > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. > > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. > > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. > _______________________________________________ > AERNet mailing list > AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. _______________________________________________ AERNet mailing list AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org
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Carol Evans
Thu, Apr 6, 2017 11:48 PM

I worked at a school for the blind as school psych. We had a very skilled
ophthalmic technician who did a great job, even provided kids and training
to TVIs. A certain parent group was upset that it wasn't being done by a
TVI.  There was no regulation at the time as far as I can remember.

Carol

On Apr 6, 2017 5:03 PM, "Sean Tikkun" stikkun@niu.edu wrote:

It is well within the training and education of people certified with
CATIS, at least in the scope of our program and training at NIU.

-Sean Tikkun

On 4/6/17, 2:30 PM, "AERNet on behalf of Amy Hadley" <
aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org on behalf of amywyogirl@gmail.com> wrote:

 In some states Occupational Therapist and COMS do them as well.

 Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 6, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Rebecca Sheffield rsheffield@afb.net

wrote:

Hi Carol,

This all depends on state law/regulations. There is no national

definition of a "CTVI" or an "FVELMA." Our professional standards are for
LMAs to be conducted by TVIs; I believe that O&M programs provide training
for conducting FVEs.

Thanks,
Rebecca

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carol green

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Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI?
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I worked at a school for the blind as school psych. We had a very skilled ophthalmic technician who did a great job, even provided kids and training to TVIs. A certain parent group was upset that it wasn't being done by a TVI. There was no regulation at the time as far as I can remember. Carol On Apr 6, 2017 5:03 PM, "Sean Tikkun" <stikkun@niu.edu> wrote: > It is well within the training and education of people certified with > CATIS, at least in the scope of our program and training at NIU. > > -Sean Tikkun > > On 4/6/17, 2:30 PM, "AERNet on behalf of Amy Hadley" < > aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org on behalf of amywyogirl@gmail.com> wrote: > > In some states Occupational Therapist and COMS do them as well. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 6, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Rebecca Sheffield <rsheffield@afb.net> > wrote: > > > > Hi Carol, > > > > This all depends on state law/regulations. There is no national > definition of a "CTVI" or an "FVELMA." Our professional standards are for > LMAs to be conducted by TVIs; I believe that O&M programs provide training > for conducting FVEs. > > > > Thanks, > > Rebecca > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of > carol green > > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:53 PM > > To: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org > > Subject: [AERNet] FVELMA > > > > > > > > > > Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI? > > Thx, > > Carol > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and > Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. > > > > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to > aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. > > > > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/ > mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to > unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. > > _______________________________________________ > > AERNet mailing list > > AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org > > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org > > > > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and > Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. > > > > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to > aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. > > > > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/ > mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to > unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. > > _______________________________________________ > > AERNet mailing list > > AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org > > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org > > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and > Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. > > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to > aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. > > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/ > mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to > unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. > _______________________________________________ > AERNet mailing list > AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org > > > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and > Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. > > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to > aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. > > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/ > mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to > unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. > _______________________________________________ > AERNet mailing list > AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org >
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Carol Evans
Thu, Apr 6, 2017 11:50 PM

I worked at a school for the blind as school psych. We had a very skilled
ophthalmic technician who did a great job, even provided kids and training
to TVIs. A certain parent group was upset that it wasn't being done by a
TVI.  There was no regulation at the time as far as I can recall.

Carol Evans

On Apr 6, 2017 5:03 PM, "Sean Tikkun" stikkun@niu.edu wrote:

It is well within the training and education of people certified with
CATIS, at least in the scope of our program and training at NIU.

-Sean Tikkun

On 4/6/17, 2:30 PM, "AERNet on behalf of Amy Hadley" <
aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org on behalf of amywyogirl@gmail.com> wrote:

 In some states Occupational Therapist and COMS do them as well.

 Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 6, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Rebecca Sheffield rsheffield@afb.net

wrote:

Hi Carol,

This all depends on state law/regulations. There is no national

definition of a "CTVI" or an "FVELMA." Our professional standards are for
LMAs to be conducted by TVIs; I believe that O&M programs provide training
for conducting FVEs.

Thanks,
Rebecca

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Subject: [AERNet] FVELMA

Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI?
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I worked at a school for the blind as school psych. We had a very skilled ophthalmic technician who did a great job, even provided kids and training to TVIs. A certain parent group was upset that it wasn't being done by a TVI. There was no regulation at the time as far as I can recall. Carol Evans On Apr 6, 2017 5:03 PM, "Sean Tikkun" <stikkun@niu.edu> wrote: > It is well within the training and education of people certified with > CATIS, at least in the scope of our program and training at NIU. > > -Sean Tikkun > > On 4/6/17, 2:30 PM, "AERNet on behalf of Amy Hadley" < > aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org on behalf of amywyogirl@gmail.com> wrote: > > In some states Occupational Therapist and COMS do them as well. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 6, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Rebecca Sheffield <rsheffield@afb.net> > wrote: > > > > Hi Carol, > > > > This all depends on state law/regulations. There is no national > definition of a "CTVI" or an "FVELMA." Our professional standards are for > LMAs to be conducted by TVIs; I believe that O&M programs provide training > for conducting FVEs. > > > > Thanks, > > Rebecca > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of > carol green > > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:53 PM > > To: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org > > Subject: [AERNet] FVELMA > > > > > > > > > > Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI? > > Thx, > > Carol > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and > Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. > > > > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to > aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. > > > > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailma > n/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to > unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. > > _______________________________________________ > > AERNet mailing list > > AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org > > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org > > > > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and > Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. > > > > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to > aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. > > > > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailma > n/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to > unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. > > _______________________________________________ > > AERNet mailing list > > AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org > > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org > > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and > Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. > > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to > aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. > > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailma > n/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to > unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. > _______________________________________________ > AERNet mailing list > AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org > > > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and > Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. > > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to > aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. > > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailma > n/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to > unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. > _______________________________________________ > AERNet mailing list > AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org >
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Carol Evans
Fri, Apr 7, 2017 1:02 AM

I meant kits, not kids. But you smart people figured that out, right?

On Apr 6, 2017 5:50 PM, "Carol Evans" visionpsych@gmail.com wrote:

I worked at a school for the blind as school psych. We had a very skilled
ophthalmic technician who did a great job, even provided kids and training
to TVIs. A certain parent group was upset that it wasn't being done by a
TVI.  There was no regulation at the time as far as I can recall.

Carol Evans

On Apr 6, 2017 5:03 PM, "Sean Tikkun" stikkun@niu.edu wrote:

It is well within the training and education of people certified with
CATIS, at least in the scope of our program and training at NIU.

-Sean Tikkun

On 4/6/17, 2:30 PM, "AERNet on behalf of Amy Hadley" <
aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org on behalf of amywyogirl@gmail.com> wrote:

 In some states Occupational Therapist and COMS do them as well.

 Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 6, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Rebecca Sheffield rsheffield@afb.net

wrote:

Hi Carol,

This all depends on state law/regulations. There is no national

definition of a "CTVI" or an "FVELMA." Our professional standards are for
LMAs to be conducted by TVIs; I believe that O&M programs provide training
for conducting FVEs.

Thanks,
Rebecca

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carol green

Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:53 PM
To: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org
Subject: [AERNet] FVELMA

Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI?
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Carol
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I meant kits, not kids. But you smart people figured that out, right? On Apr 6, 2017 5:50 PM, "Carol Evans" <visionpsych@gmail.com> wrote: > I worked at a school for the blind as school psych. We had a very skilled > ophthalmic technician who did a great job, even provided kids and training > to TVIs. A certain parent group was upset that it wasn't being done by a > TVI. There was no regulation at the time as far as I can recall. > > Carol Evans > > On Apr 6, 2017 5:03 PM, "Sean Tikkun" <stikkun@niu.edu> wrote: > >> It is well within the training and education of people certified with >> CATIS, at least in the scope of our program and training at NIU. >> >> -Sean Tikkun >> >> On 4/6/17, 2:30 PM, "AERNet on behalf of Amy Hadley" < >> aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org on behalf of amywyogirl@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> In some states Occupational Therapist and COMS do them as well. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Apr 6, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Rebecca Sheffield <rsheffield@afb.net> >> wrote: >> > >> > Hi Carol, >> > >> > This all depends on state law/regulations. There is no national >> definition of a "CTVI" or an "FVELMA." Our professional standards are for >> LMAs to be conducted by TVIs; I believe that O&M programs provide training >> for conducting FVEs. >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Rebecca >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of >> carol green >> > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:53 PM >> > To: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org >> > Subject: [AERNet] FVELMA >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI? >> > Thx, >> > Carol >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and >> Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. >> > >> > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to >> aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. >> > >> > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org >> > >> > To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailma >> n/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to >> unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > AERNet mailing list >> > AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org >> > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org >> > >> > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and >> Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. >> > >> > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to >> aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. >> > >> > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org >> > >> > To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailma >> n/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to >> unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > AERNet mailing list >> > AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org >> > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org >> >> You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and >> Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. >> >> To post a message to all the list members, send an email to >> aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. >> >> Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailma >> n/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to >> unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. >> _______________________________________________ >> AERNet mailing list >> AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org >> http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org >> >> >> You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and >> Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. >> >> To post a message to all the list members, send an email to >> aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. >> >> Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailma >> n/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to >> unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. >> _______________________________________________ >> AERNet mailing list >> AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org >> http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org >> >
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William Penrod
Fri, Apr 7, 2017 4:56 PM

Personally, while the FVE aspect may be arguable, I do not think that conducting a Learning Media Assessment (LMA) is within the purview of a COMS unless he/she is also a TVI...I am not an authority on OTs, but I would remain skeptical. Just my thoughts.  Bill
William M. Penrod, Ed.D., TVI, COMS
Associate Professor of Special Education
Northern Illinois University
Department of SEED, CoE
232A Graham Hall
DeKalb, IL 60115

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To: Rebecca Sheffield rsheffield@afb.net
Cc: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org; carol green mommygreen69@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA

In some states Occupational Therapist and COMS do them as well.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 6, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Rebecca Sheffield rsheffield@afb.net wrote:

Hi Carol,

This all depends on state law/regulations. There is no national definition of a "CTVI" or an "FVELMA." Our professional standards are for LMAs to be conducted by TVIs; I believe that O&M programs provide training for conducting FVEs.

Thanks,
Rebecca

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Subject: [AERNet] FVELMA

Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI?
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Carol
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Personally, while the FVE aspect may be arguable, I do not think that conducting a Learning Media Assessment (LMA) is within the purview of a COMS unless he/she is also a TVI...I am not an authority on OTs, but I would remain skeptical. Just my thoughts. Bill William M. Penrod, Ed.D., TVI, COMS Associate Professor of Special Education Northern Illinois University Department of SEED, CoE 232A Graham Hall DeKalb, IL 60115 -----Original Message----- From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Amy Hadley Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:30 PM To: Rebecca Sheffield <rsheffield@afb.net> Cc: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org; carol green <mommygreen69@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA In some states Occupational Therapist and COMS do them as well. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 6, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Rebecca Sheffield <rsheffield@afb.net> wrote: > > Hi Carol, > > This all depends on state law/regulations. There is no national definition of a "CTVI" or an "FVELMA." Our professional standards are for LMAs to be conducted by TVIs; I believe that O&M programs provide training for conducting FVEs. > > Thanks, > Rebecca > > -----Original Message----- > From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of carol green > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:53 PM > To: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org > Subject: [AERNet] FVELMA > > > > > Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI? > Thx, > Carol > Sent from my iPhone > > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. > > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. > > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. > _______________________________________________ > AERNet mailing list > AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org > > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. > > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. > > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. > _______________________________________________ > AERNet mailing list > AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. _______________________________________________ AERNet mailing list AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org
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I have followed this discussion with interest, and I know that it applies to school age children. However both FVE and LME can sometimes be used working with adults  A Certified Vocational Evaluator , CVRT, and Occupational Therapist (specializing in vision) often use versions of these.

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Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA

Personally, while the FVE aspect may be arguable, I do not think that conducting a Learning Media Assessment (LMA) is within the purview of a COMS unless he/she is also a TVI...I am not an authority on OTs, but I would remain skeptical. Just my thoughts.  Bill William M. Penrod, Ed.D., TVI, COMS Associate Professor of Special Education Northern Illinois University Department of SEED, CoE 232A Graham Hall DeKalb, IL 60115

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Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA

In some states Occupational Therapist and COMS do them as well.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 6, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Rebecca Sheffield rsheffield@afb.net wrote:

Hi Carol,

This all depends on state law/regulations. There is no national definition of a "CTVI" or an "FVELMA." Our professional standards are for LMAs to be conducted by TVIs; I believe that O&M programs provide training for conducting FVEs.

Thanks,
Rebecca

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carol green
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:53 PM
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Subject: [AERNet] FVELMA

Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI?
Thx,
Carol
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I have followed this discussion with interest, and I know that it applies to school age children. However both FVE and LME can sometimes be used working with adults A Certified Vocational Evaluator , CVRT, and Occupational Therapist (specializing in vision) often use versions of these. -----Original Message----- From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of William Penrod Sent: Friday, April 7, 2017 11:56 AM To: Amy Hadley <amywyogirl@gmail.com>; Rebecca Sheffield <rsheffield@afb.net> Cc: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org; carol green <mommygreen69@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA Personally, while the FVE aspect may be arguable, I do not think that conducting a Learning Media Assessment (LMA) is within the purview of a COMS unless he/she is also a TVI...I am not an authority on OTs, but I would remain skeptical. Just my thoughts. Bill William M. Penrod, Ed.D., TVI, COMS Associate Professor of Special Education Northern Illinois University Department of SEED, CoE 232A Graham Hall DeKalb, IL 60115 -----Original Message----- From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of Amy Hadley Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:30 PM To: Rebecca Sheffield <rsheffield@afb.net> Cc: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org; carol green <mommygreen69@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [AERNet] FVELMA In some states Occupational Therapist and COMS do them as well. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 6, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Rebecca Sheffield <rsheffield@afb.net> wrote: > > Hi Carol, > > This all depends on state law/regulations. There is no national definition of a "CTVI" or an "FVELMA." Our professional standards are for LMAs to be conducted by TVIs; I believe that O&M programs provide training for conducting FVEs. > > Thanks, > Rebecca > > -----Original Message----- > From: AERNet [mailto:aernet-bounces@lists.aerbvi.org] On Behalf Of > carol green > Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 2:53 PM > To: aernet@lists.aerbvi.org > Subject: [AERNet] FVELMA > > > > > Is there anyone else qualified to conduct a FVELMA besides a CTVI? > Thx, > Carol > Sent from my iPhone > > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. > > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. > > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. > _______________________________________________ > AERNet mailing list > AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org > > You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. > > To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. > > Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. > _______________________________________________ > AERNet mailing list > AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org > http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. _______________________________________________ AERNet mailing list AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org You are subscribed to AERNet, The Association for Education and Rehabilitation of the Blind and Visually Impaired Listserv. To post a message to all the list members, send an email to aernet@lists.aerbvi.org. Address list requests to: aernet-request@lists.aerbvi.org To unsubscribe from this list, go to http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org and follow instructions to unsubscribe. Go to the same address to access the list archives. _______________________________________________ AERNet mailing list AERNet@lists.aerbvi.org http://lists.aerbvi.org/mailman/listinfo/aernet_lists.aerbvi.org